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Dcb

you are as stupid as ever

C432

''will be determined by how many recipients, wish to sell some or all of these new shares next week.''

most likely 'locked up' in a trust for X years for the best tax advantage for the recipient

DCB

''Happy days''

for some shareholders maybe, but irrelevant to you.

Brix

''cash holding in the Brokers just sat there doing nowt''

Time is money - could be a lot of wasted time waiting for a market crash.

I always have cash sitting with HSBC as I am continually being paid dividends.

About 9 this month.

Jcb

''Sold another 10%''

thanks

P51

''Sold a few to help MS buy backs''

thanks

It doesn't matter - 70 is a number just like any other, but it is in the best interest for long term shareholders for the share price to remain subdued for the forthcoming buybacks. Of course those wishing to no longer be invested would prefer £1 + per share next week.

Boe1

This is your chance to post that you got the xd date wrong and buyback amount wrong and that you now understood

Boe

''I meant''

but you said that you didn't care how much Vodafone pay for their shares.

''I'm purely in this for SP growth, if I get my exit during or after the buybacks it matters little to me ''

I would prefer your exit to be before the buybacks start.

''I will exit sooner if the buybacks force the SP up. ''

The market determines the valuation of Vodafone on a daily basis

''Which having been in barclays and all there years of buybacks it's not the saving grace it's sometimes made out to be.''

Buybacks for cancellation are conducted to reduce the share capital - the market determines the value of a business.

Vodafone know to a high degree of confidence when the sales will go through''

they have already stated - one by the end of June and the other in first quarter 2025

''they also know to a high degree of confidence how quickly they will buy them back''

no they don't - that will be conducted on their behalf. The speed of spend will depend on prices paid, trading volumes and if buyback rule restriction come into play.

'' yes the big guess for them is the price they buy them back at, but in there messaging of the total dividend cash payout they aren't expecting a rapid recovery''

the market determines the valuation of Vodafone which is independent of what the BOD's expect the valuation to be.

''there estimate otherwise the reduction wouldn't be 58%''

how many more times - not interested or of much significance.

''I get you don't want to listen to me''

I have already stated the facts - what you are trying to say is complete fluff on top.

'' what there best guess is.''

when are you going to understand - the exact cash payout in dividends which will be determined by shares in issue is of very little interest.

''what I'm saying is so stupid''

inconsequential

'' but I'm done talking to you. ''

thank fk for that

''You are clearly incapable of engaging in a conversation ''

when you have something of consequence to say, would be a good start.

BOE

' they have made their best estimate and that's more reliable that you gobbing off on here trying to make other people look stupid''

as i said, you do that all by yourself.

In the scheme of things the exact cash amount that Vodafone pay in dividends is not of great importance - I am not interested.

Boe1

This is your chance to post that you got the xd date wrong and buyback amount wrong and that you now understood

''I really don't care much for cost per share''

I do, the lower, the greater the decrease of shares in issue

''I want SP recovery''

any sensible investor holding for the long term, would prefer that after the completion

of the total 4 Billion EURO investment in Vodafone shares.

''and vodafone are telling me this will be 1.1b in 2025, down from 2.5b when it was 9 cents''

They are estimating/guessing.

''If your in it for dividend yield''

??

I am in it for a total return over X number of years. The buybacks should play a role in that.

On a maintained market cap the price per share would go up by an amount depending on the number of shares cancelled.

Buying back Vodafone shares at 50p per share would make the cash divined payout at 9 cents per year a lot less and at 120p a lot more.

Boe1

''So you don't believe the RNS telling you it will be likely to be a 1.1b payout in 2025? Or the actual results they posted saying it is 2.5b currently? ''

??

What I believe is that I believe I have not mentioned such an rns.

I also KNOW, that the amount the cash amount that Vodafone payout is unknown after the rebase as it is UNKNOWN how many shares will be in issue that qualify.

''He'll why are you invested here if you don't believe either what they tell you or what the accounts state.''

I am invested to make a good return.

I KNOW that Vodafone don't know how much cash tey will be paying out in dividends from the re base as the share count is unknown . They can only give their estimate/guess

Boe

'1Your trying to make out as if I'm being stupid ''

you do that all by yourself by not getting the facts that I have already mentioned, correct.

This is your chance to post that you got the xd date wrong and buyback amount wrong and that you now understood

Eo

how long are you hoping to keep your current id.?

Boe

am not interested in what you say- you cannot get the facts right.

You didn't know the final dividend xd and payment months.

you thought that £4 Billion was being spent on buybacks.

You think that many more shares are going to be bought than is likely.

The dividends are being reduced from 9 cents to 4.5 cents.

There will be 2X2 Billion EURO share buybacks, with the first likeliky to start by July.

END OF

Beo

''The fact I said nearly 60%''

who is interested?

shareholders are interested in the dividends per share that they will receive.

Shareholders should already know about the cut.

shareholders should already know that total returns will be increased with the buyback.

The share count is unlikely to reduce by 20% by the end of 2025

Boe

''I was merely pointing out ''

why?

''although the dividend payout is being slashed on a per share by 50% the net effect to the cash payout would be closer to 60% because of the buybacks''

why are you repeating this yet again for about the 4th time. - you will simply get the same response.

The number of shares that will be bought and cancelled is an unknown, therefore the cash amount being unknown.

The share count is unlikely to reduce bu 20% by the end of 2025..

The total spend on shares will be 4 billion EUROS.

''they are effectively reducing the dividend by nearly 60% in there actions on the dividend and buybacks''

they are reducing the dividends per share by 50% starting with the interim going xd in November.

Beo1

why are you posting what I have already posted?

what did you not understand when i said total returns are being increased?

Beo1

you certainly are a weird one.

I repeat - i am pretty sure that many investors are not much interested in the unknown cash amount that Vodafone will be paying out in the future - they would be interest in the amount per share that is declared