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Both the Social Democrats (Leftists/Socialists) and the Moderate party (Centre Right) have lost share of the vote to the Sweden Democrats (Anti-Immigrant/Islam) party.

The exit poll puts the Sweden Democrats on just under 20%, before the election they had 12.9%. The Social Democrats had 31% before the election, they're expected to drop to around 26.2%. The Moderate Party had 23.3% before the election, they're expected to drop to around 18.4% of the vote.

So the Sweden Democrats (Anti Immigrant) have taken about 9.7% share of the vote direct from the Social Democrats (Leftists) and the Moderate party (Centre Right).

Sweden is traditionally ruled by coalitions, so it was no surprise that there is no party with an outright majority. However the Social Democrats (Leftists) are thought to have had their worst election since 1908. So the strength of opinion against rampant immigration, Globalism and lack of assimilation from practitioners of Islam is growing.

Both the Social Democrats (Leftists) and the Moderate party (Centre right) have said they refuse to work with the Sweden Democrats (Right Wing)... and it looks as though neither of them will be able to form a government on their own.

So it's either...

A) A minority government.
B) A grand coalition.

But one thing is for sure the Sweden Democrats voice has just gotten very much louder in their share of the votes.

https://news.sky.com/story/anti-immigrant-party-wins-20-in-sweden-vote-exit-poll-11494174

https://www.rt.com/news/438011-sweden-election-democrats-polls/

Note: What's this got to do with LLOY? Well depending on what sort of government is formed, there could be further calls for a Swedish referendum on EU membership as the Sweden Democrats have said they want a referendum in the past. Clearly that would rock European markets if it happened. Although I don't think they are going to be part of the next government, so it probably won't.

The problem is these Illegals don't fear the consequences of either entering illegal or becoming illegal after they have over stayed their welcome. Our countries legal system is a joke to them.

Couple what I said before with extremely strict entry criteria where we only take what we absolutely can't find or train in our own country and we'll have a sensible immigration policy with severe consequences for anyone breaking the rules/law.

"JMO, if said person will not divulge their country of origin or states that they cannot remember their country of origin, then they cannot be sent back. This is practiced at the moment."

That's a good point Freya. Then the government needs to focus on coming down extremely harshly on anyone who (A) Provides employment to an illegal immigrant. (B) Provides accommodation for an illegal immigrant.

Compulsory ID cards with a bio-metric scan-able chip that gives the code to access the Home Office system instantly telling the immigration officer if they are or are not allowed to be in the UK.

For those that refuse to say which country they are from, then they should be put to work in a Labour camp to work for their keep. And no I don't mean a concentration camp for the twisted leftists who can't use their brain. I mean a Labour camp where they work for their keep, something that makes them think twice about coming to the UK illegally.

For those business owners found to be employing illegal immigrants and/or landlords giving them accommodation they should receive compulsory bankruptcy notices with all assets seized by the state and a lengthy jail sentence with no parole.

Make the punishment so bad that they wouldn't dream of employing illegals as it's simply not worth the risk to them, and the illegals will soon try to take the p*ss out of another country.

Snige,

They don't come through Heathrow... they jump on the back of HGV's. If you're talking about the Visa over stayers, then those people need money to survive, we need to go after who ever is providing them an income or roof over their head without checking they have the relevant papers to remain here....

"JMO
It's never been done....deporting a person without a bi-lateral agreement to accept their citizens back.
That is the main problem you fail to address."

Then make an agreement, and if the country of origin refuses to take it's own citizen back (our illegal immigrant) the sanction it until it takes them back. We need to get tough, I'm sick of Western World's culture (including the UK) being incrementally destroyed by people who do not want to integrate or assimilate.

And anyone who can't see this is a big threat to not only our way of life, but our safety in the future is quite frankly stupid. And that's not being arrogant, it's so blatantly obvious.

Personally I would be happy with ID cards if it meant deporting those that should not be here. I think we could be much tougher on the entry before that though. An actual quota, and when it's reached no more. If businesses don't have enough employees then they need to find British employees.

If they can't then tough, they will need to adapt. This is a fight for the survival of our culture and way of life.

"labour slips in on over stayed visa's.The UK government has full responsibily for visa's and has done absolutely nothing about it and will not."

Snige I agree on the above. And the sooner this sinks in with the majority of the electorate, the sooner the majority rejects both Tory's and Labour. 282,000 Net Migrants came to the UK over the last year... despite the Liberal Conservatives promising immigration in the ten's of thousands since 2010.

The are failing.

Barnier has already said he favours a Canada Style deal. That's what Rees Mogg and the ERG want too. The only thing standing in the way of that is Treason May and her band of undemocratic MP's.

A Canada Style deal means we wouldn't need to adhere to the 4 freedoms, one of which the Freedom of Movement, but we'd still have a free trade deal.

Any MP who stands in the way of that needs removed from office.

"in fact the softest external border will be ours if we cannot obtain European labour."

Not if we elect a real Conservative government. UKIP are currently deciding on letting Tommy Robinson join UKIP. Millions will vote for UKIP if they do.

Looks like this might be the route the UK takes to join the 7 of the 28 EU member states who have already voted for true Conservative parties who are now in power.

Those calling for impeachment are the vile Far Left who don't respect democracy.

Gate,

There's 3 positions in the market. Long, Short and Out. All can serve you well at different times. I genuinely don't know if right now we've seen the top, the various global issues could resolve themselves and we see at 8k or 9k FTSE before we see a big crash.

But if I ignore all the noise, all the opinions and sift through each of the FTSE 100 stocks and look at their actual fundamentals, there aren't a hell of a lot sticking out as a strong buy... and even the ones that are could see their businesses affected substantially if the Trade war and Western Politics cause enough problems.

I'd rather miss out on 10% than lose 50% and need to make 100% to break even. So I'll let the market do it's thing and buy only when most of the market looks like a screaming buy... that's usually when fear and misery is at it's peak. When people are quoting all sorts of companies as about to fold.

Oh and Western debt is far bigger than it was in 2007/2008... I'm not saying this is the start of a long term crash.... no one can predict the markets... but the ingredients are there for it. I change my view based on the information available to me. Right now there is more ingredients brewing for a crash than there is for a big rise.

The biggest risk factors I see for the stock market are...

1. The Global trade war drags on, eventually it changes the data and money starts exiting the stock market.
2. Investment dries up, and jobs are cut as a result.
3. People can't pay their mortgage and other debts. Homes repossessed, and default rates higher.
4. Lending criteria is tightened up causing another hit to investment, less jobs created and recessions across the West.
5. The extreme Right vs Left Wing politics escalates as people have lost their jobs.... it sounds unthinkable today, but Civil war is a possibility. I could write a few thousand words on why I think that is... but I won't bother. Take it or leave it I don't care.
6. If the Far Left & Globalists get something on Trump that's enough to impeach him, that in itself will be enough to hammer the markets.

Remember, no major crash happens in a straight line, there are many bounces on the way down, some lasting a day, some a few, some a few weeks.

LTI,

I asked about your portfolio if LLOY halved in value, not the FTSE. Where did you get the 23 year figure from? It's not right mate..

July 2007 Top = 6754.1
March 2009 Bottom = 3460.7
(48.76% decline)
Albeit this crash was 1.24% short of a 50% decling, but it wasn't 23 years ago. The crash took 20 months to find it's floor.
Also...
December 1999 Top = 6950.6
March 2003 Bottom = 3277.5 (52.84% Decline)
This crash was more than a 50% decline and it took 3 years and 3 months to find it's floor, it also wasn't 23 years ago.
Your portfolio is obviously your business, but it seems strange that you would say you have a portfolio of 30+ stocks, but only comment on two stocks. I've hardly commented on any either, but I'm in cash.
We're both anonymous nicknames here, so no face is lost. If you've over exposed yourself and you're sitting on a small loss... In my humble opinion, it's time to derisk your portfolio. I could be wrong and suddenly everything resolves itself... but if I'm not wrong, well I'll leave that to your imagination.

Miners are cyclical, they can go down just as fast as they go up when the cycle reverses. A global trade war would do that if it's not resolved before it's too late.

LTI,

If the market took a 50% hit for example even a 3 year old would know your maths won't stack up. How many stocks are you invested in? How would your portfolio cope if Lloyds halved in value and then had various rights issues due to unforeseen circumstances?

Or half in value and then was taken over at under your average?

LTI,

No I'm waiting on a crash of the markets. No point in taking a dividend only to lose more than the value of the dividend in capital depreciation.

Wall street will be making a fortune shorting. What power do they have over Trump? He was elected partly because he couldn't be bought and paid for, he was already filthy rich.

Most stocks on the FTSE are either fairly valued or over valued. LLOY is one of the undervalued based on discount to future cash flow. But it's also a very slow growth stock, with medium level income. It's one of those stocks that gets dragged up with the rest of the market, as well as down.

Trump looks to be going after Japan next too, the trade war seems to be escalating. I'm still in cash.

Crashes don't take a few days, weeks or months... they usually last over a year.