The next focusIR Investor Webinar takes places on 14th May with guest speakers from Blue Whale Growth Fund, Taseko Mines, Kavango Resources and CQS Natural Resources fund. Please register here.
is excellent advice for a nervous shareholders as someone said earlier.
For those new to this simply apply common sense and do your OWN homework properly, look at the actual business health and their proposition - ignore the background noise from rampers and derampers unless you want to trade in and out opportunistically.
There a many PI's who change their stance as often as they change their socks, depending on if the are in or out on the day which can be more than once a day - someone confessed to trading yesterday and had his/her head nearly torn off - but that poster told the truth when they said many others are doing it (some in a deceitful way by encouraging others to do exactly the opposite of what they intend to do, that's the bit that annoys me, dishonesty).
It's all well trodden ground, but though this week has be something of a choppy consolidation period I'm convinced there will be Blue Skies ahead. So no one will convince me to sell in the absence of more news, I've spent the week grapping with the decision of increasing my position.
I've written off this week and I'm looking forward to the start of a new trading week.
CautiousO - who knows, it's long overdue and the SP weakness is an inevitable consequence of uncertainty - I've missed off the Optimism because there is little of it here.
I'm sure the situation is not lost on the directors - I honestly believe a CEO needs the sack at Loop.
Don't try to see any logic in this retrace - there isn't any, it will correct based on the value of business but it takes time and a saw tooth type rise is absolutely normal.
Looking for demons achieves nothing, share overhang, MM manipulation (I know it happens), placing rumours etc - it's all nonsense - some holders or shorters are selling and their impact is out pacing the buyers at the moment - very simple. It can change at any time, have some patience it's only been a few sessions since hitting a high..
A lot of drivel being posted on the BB to try to confuse and frighten shareholder - keep your nerve there are no known issue that threaten the business proposition.
If they buy CUDA it will be because the deal is good for the company, if they don't then we get a partner that will pay their share of costs and will certainly want to accelerate the engineering solution (on hold) to dramatically increase production - it's a Win or a Win.
I don't know if the big trades that are occurring each day and particularly yesterday are predominantly buys or sells, but it really doesn't matter, the fact that trading simply takes up the shares is very reassuring for the depth of the support - anyone can get in or out and each session shares are moving to holders at higher prices.
It takes time to consolidate for a major uplift and all is going well - the SP must go down a little on occasion or rally will run out of steam - all is looking great for a strong sustained rise.
stew200 - Answer is No. I have have committed my thoughts to send a couple of times (writing it down helps me see the picture better in any case) but have not sent anything as it is clear Steve and the BoD do not wish to engage with shareholders - hence the lack of a contact email or phone number on the website. I flatly refuse to commit my viewpoint to an anonymous sales portal - it's disgraceful and I told the companies advisors as much along with some other thoughts about Comms that they said they would pass on.
Nothing happened so I assume they didn't value my viewpoint.
I explained to their advisors that they would benefit by putting a link on the website to allow shareholder comments and appoint or designate an IR lead - I won't ask again unless it's whilst eyeballing the CEO. We all have valid viewpoints and help pay their wages.
I believe the SP will or at least should improve dramatically this year or I would sell at the next opportunity, but that will be in spite of poor IR.
They either don't care or don't realise how bad they are - I hope it's the latter and it down to bad advice.
It's so frustrating that our CEO's appear to miscalculated their market and have lost the support of nearly all PI's, this BB has little to talk about except the potential(there's only so much to say) and past disappointments.
Our BoD really did screw up, like many others I'm well under water here and have far more shares than I initially intended - with the BoD undermining every effort I made to gain some measure of stability. At times it felt like they were content to let the SP slide.
We're where we have been for a long time now - awaiting the time when the BoD delivers on their promises, and the weak SP is IMO clearly down to impatience with long over due news and the fact that if news is delayed shareholders fear the worst.
I'm also disappointed that the CEO's have so far been barely visible for months, has presented to shareholders an excuse for keeping then in the dark up to the recent capital raise but promised communications would improve going forward. Give him his due Steve is much better than the US based guy - he could have been on holiday or even in prison for the last 3 years and I'm not convinced we would have noticed any difference (if I had the power I would seriously consider sacking him).
My biggest concern at the moment is why the US is not leading the sales effort or at least demonstrating it's potential when it's the world biggest market by a massive margin.
I'm still here because I believe this is now a very good prospect as the market expect little and has priced it appropriately so any good news such see a significant improvement (they raised expectations that 2022 would deliver good news).
Yes it is a great day.
The suggestion that they delayed for months before informing the market of the size of the find is not borne out by the data we have. It has been explained that the well proved complex and the results required careful analysis before the information could be confirmed. Not only would it be illegal and unethical to release the information unless they were convinced it was correct - imagine if they had to withdraw or downgrade it. Jumping the gun is disastrous and then more recently (well after the capital raise) they RNSed they would delay the result for commercial reasons - it wasn't months!
Hopefully the spell is broken, each market appears to be fearful that the other will wipe out the rise in the next session - IMO it is calming the market - each fading towards the end of the session.
I suppose it's just a matter of time before the market cap reaches fair value, after all the good news has only just landed.
Lots of views on this, here's mine - COPL will have JV's in some form or other or carry massive debt in order to expand. The CEO is not an idiot and will take the best available deal for that is available to a now highly investable company. It really doesn't matter as long as they make the right decisions.
Incidentally (correct me if I'm wrong) I believe the sale of CODA has progressed from being an attempt by Directors to sell assets to survive to the creditors bringing in Administrators and all directors resigning; consequently they now want to sell the whole company.
With that in mind I assume the buyer may be given the opportunity to take debt or convert it to equity (all offers considered) - that possibility opens up new options for COPL in getting the US, Canadian and whatever other assets for very little (or no) cash and perhaps accepting a proportion of the debt.
Personally, I suspect an assets by asset sale is unlikely, so COPL may not be able to cherry pick, and a debt for equity deal at say 30p in the £ would be excellent/attractive for COPL (and also the creditors now the company is in the ascendancy), that would preserve maximum cash to invest and leave the company in a very strong position to develop the new find rapidly. Is that perhaps why the CEO released the news contrary to previous intent (some posters have questioned why) - to boost the SP as lets face it that type of deal is now much more attractive to shareholders as any dilution is covered multiple times by new assets and any need for further placings diminishes massively!!
I know PI's hate placing./ dilution but I suggest a deal as above would be fantastic outcome and give COPL cash resources for expansion, new locked in institutional shareholders (usual condition) and non core asset to sell.
I trust the CEO to ensure whatever the deal for CUDA (if one can be done) will boost the company/SP. If no deal is possible (COPL can be out bid) that is still a great outcome as a new owner with cash will allow the engineering solutions required for a dramatic increase in production to be addressed - I cant see a downside in removing uncertainty.
I happen to have topped up a couple of times since the news - and very pleased to have done so like so many others.
But I suggest everyone thinks carefully about this investment and do research - that way you'll appreciate that this not just a ramped/bubble stock as some seem to want it to be (ramp and then dump for a quick profit). IMO it's pathetic/thoughtless writing posts with statements like:
"nearing last chance to buy !
some will miss the boat!
no one would want to be out of this over the weekend
etc, etc."
Give us a break, this does not need that drivel to rise strongly and more importantly sustainably.
No one is missing any boat (opportunity), IMO it will be a great buy tomorrow, next week and next month at 40, 50, 60p and much much higher as the story unfolds- that's why I bought.
If you think others will not get an opportunity then the inference is you think it has run it's course and is only worthy of ramping (think about it) - those suggesting it either don't understand or have a short term agenda.
Of course the more you pay the less the potential profit, but if you believe in the business proposition then the journey has only just started and there's good profit for all.
We need the year end TU and forward expectations to draw a line under last years farce.
Shareholders will always fear the worst if news is slow, it's natural - the company simply needs to deliver the news good or bad - I suspect they are waiting for some good 2022 news to release concurrently. Steve said he would stop being secretive, I don't know when that starts.
For me the trading action leading to a steady SP rise is perfect, many times I've seen great news fizzle out to nothing. This has been a great start
Massive upward surging and pull backs are sh*te for long term performance - it puts off genuine investors and attracts more speculators (in and out multiple times) - taken to extremis it saps support at least in the short term.
So I'm extremely pleased about the rise as it's holding from day to day which points to higher prices and importantly buyers are moving in with confidence without fear of an imminent SP collapse.
I posted on the BB for the first time on Monday to point out that I was underwater having added shares to my holding but was happy I made the right decision irrespective of the pull back. My point is if buyers have confidence then they are not sitting sweating on the sell button for a small profit, or scared to be scalped by MMs speculators and shorters.
If that's the case and buyers truly see value (not just a gravy train which will soon run out of steam) then this will go much higher. Who knows what fair value is now, we can only guess
As the CEO indicated in his interview with proactive there are traders who hold shares with no intention of staying with the company long term, distinguishing them from II's! On top of those there will now be buyers in and out through the day happy to take a small % profit - MO easy to spot with ramping then changing their stance within a session or two. Was he perhaps giving a warning that we should expect games to be played??
But make no mistake the news was Fantastic and IMO the SP should solidly up over the coming weeks and months, what happens on any day is somewhat meaningless unless you are day trading - just ignore the idiots (rampers and derampers) and use your own judgement as always.
It is unusual to discover so much oil in a friendly location (sorry guys for all the potential Nigeria it is sh*te compared to the US in terms of driving a company forward), the US is the ultimate investment location in terms with everything to hand from skilled personnel, loads of money, political stability to a massive market.
I bought more this morning and I'm totally un-phased at being slightly underwater on those trades - this has a long way to run, maybe not today, who knows, but it's a long term play and potential stellar investment.
IMO a great opportunity to be in at the start of an undervalued company's recovery.
Happy to have increased my position, a pity I didn't do it last week, well done to those that did.
Another session over without damage, every Friday where the SP doesn't come under pressure is a good one IMO and every session brings us closer to the tipping point where Cloud Telephony converts into significant net growth and compounding starts to kick in.
The company is steadily advertising for additional staff - no Big Bang explosion in demand so costs still being carefully managed in advance of reaching full capacity - I see lots of junior level jobs in roles that drive new business and some for implementation roles which suggests new business leads and wins are going well, like the one just advertised for a Project Coordinator.
The other aspect of note for me is that there are no new roles for operational support staff which IMO in the end will be the biggest cohort - so I suspect this transition to the cloud provides a great opportunity to fully deploy existing staff from the Meetings team (Synergies and efficiency I hope).
So perhaps there is some minor retraining activity/costs - but if redundancy and recruitment costs are saved that is a major saving and makes it easier to expand (recruiting appropriate driven people is not easy) - as they need competent operator not just bums on seats - I have been wondering why there are so few vacancies in multi-lingual customer support as they expand regions??
This IMO this recruitment level tells us the company is winning business and expects the pipeline of opportunities to grow but also that they are handling the growth (no easy task when they don't know what growth will be and want to minimise spend).
On the subject of regions, by far the biggest market for cloud Telephony is in the US, I believe bigger than all others combined - so it raises concerns with me how our US division appears to play second fiddle to the UK. If the cloud success case studies provide any guide, they tend to be UK/European outfits - how come we do not appear to be getting proportionate (3 or 4 times as many) results from the US. Steve attracts significant pressure from shareholders whereas the other guy seems to keep a very low profile (what does he do??) - it would be nice to see where our success and leads pipeline is coming from - is someone falling short?? Maybe I'm being unfair, but based on the data it doesn't look like the US is leading growth to me.
Yes - A happy NEW year to all.
I can't help thinking it is yet again contrived (spoof trades) - I didn't expect much trading (buys) until the new year and entities offset profits into year end and get rid of what is likely an embarrassing investment that some II's likely won't want to report in 2022.
At least they could offset losses against 2021 profits (dispose of the issue) even if the SP goes up strongly in 2022 it is unlikely to offset the losses for those that bought at the top of the market.
Sorry, forgot to add the link:
https://imagesupplysystemsav.com/news-tbs-matrix-room-video-wall/