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My wife and I, as far as we know, have not had Covid. A recent study indicated that only 15% of the UK population have not had coviid. My wife and I have tried to work out why we appear to be in this 15%. We have both taken FF for over 10 years. Maybe just coincidence but I would be keen to know if my fellow investors and consumers of FF have had similar or at least very mild symptoms. TIA
https://flyfit.com/
anti hangover
detoxification and hydration coming soon
https://www.facebook.com/FlyFitHealth/videos/544683461034997/?extid=CL-UNK-UNK-UNK-IOS_GK0T-GK1C&mibextid=2Rb1fB&ref=sharing
Looks like he/she did a few, but won't let me view them
Thanks
Not sure if I picked you up correctly pumpky.
If you mean could By-Health sell Fruitflow products in China before obtaining Blue Cap? I believe the answer is yes but they would not be able to make any health claims on these products containing Fruitflow so would be a bit pointless.
There are/have been other products in China containing Fruitflow like the the following.
http://www.femgj.com/cpzx/gnbj/show-103.html
Another way by-Health could sell fruitflow products into China would be through one of their cross border e commerce companies but I believe B-H want everything in place to get maximum impact/sales when products are released.
A fair few valid points there.
FF as a drug would require large investment, you might read in to that By Health are the only candidate to fund it, why would they not acquire the whole company before committing those levels of funding?
DS/PX transfer, you can read the terms in the RNS, so the answer is No.
China has been in weird territory throughout 2022, lockdowns and business disruption. I imagine that could have affected data collection.
Expanding FF+O3 sales. That will require a sales network/more staff etc. Not fundable at present perhaps?
I think we have to accept that the Liverpool work will remain academic. so of little value to us
Blood pressure patent, air pollution effects patent. One word. Funding
The new era should be as you say, but it seems to me that we are constrained by careful spending until revenues flow from the newly started collaboration with By Health.
By-Health have exclusive supply and distribution rights
to commercialise Fruitflow in Mainland China, Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan and Australia
Can By Health only sell in China when given authorisation?
The update wasn't really an update, it didn't update us on anything, like...
How is the work to progress FF as a drug, has that got started?
Is the transfer from DSM to PXS complete? If not, why not?
Why did the outstanding By-Health Studies not complete and what is the new forecast completion date?
What is happening with getting FF+ Omega3 into other shops etc?
What happed to the Fruitflow app for mobile devices?
What is happening with the Liverpool research work?
What is happening with blood pressure work? We did a small trial, said yeh it works and that's it?
etc
RNS damp squib
That said, the future looks very good. They are still forecasting that the "prospective sales pipeline for Fruitflow continues to stand at a substantial multiple of existing annual sales." If only we knew what existing Fruitflow sales were or what was meant by 'substantial multiples', and a broad timeline would be nice.
Stability is more important IMHO. The update didn't address the uncertainty over whether or not more funding is needed, my hunch is that it is, but that the support will be there for it. Until we know, hands are being sat on. Also, I reckon most ISA's are maxed out until the next tax year, and that puts a further brake on trades.
What's with the awful spread. MM are not encouraging buys. Don't sell them cheap. You will be locked out.
Nice find Dr-H
and a reminder that By-Health have exclusive supply and distribution rights
to commercialise Fruitflow in Mainland China, Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan and Australia (the ‘Territories’).
So they could be supplying this one.
Asia Health King CTC
https://www.ahk.com.tw/pages/ctc?fbclid=IwAR3t79qSJfXEY8EIbCfmjQhaNFpSCIj7ZBshTUXQ6ByvBkJusvy6TiaeoEc
Those strict rules will favour PXS and BH because only they will have access to the health claim for 5 years. This comes at a time when the trend for the next 5 years is to address healthy aging. It’s the focus of all the big VDS companies.
It has been a long road so far but just to be clear By-Health did not join PXS in November 2016 but they did sign a research and development collaboration with DSM
https://www.investegate.co.uk/provexis-plc/rns/new-collaboration-for-fruitflow/201611180946145752P/
April 2017 saw a MOU for a research and development collaboration between By-Health and PXS
https://www.investegate.co.uk/provexis-plc/rns/by-health-mou-and-product-launch-for-fruitflow/201704060700117286B/
and it wasn't until Aug 2019 that the collaboration was agreed.
https://www.investegate.co.uk/provexis-plc/rns/collaboration-agreement-with-by-health-co.--ltd./201908020700016430H/
in Nov 2021 a further agreement between PXS and B-H was reached for supply of Fruitflow and support in R&D
https://www.investegate.co.uk/provexis-plc/rns/by-health-fruitflow-agreement-and-support-in-r-d/202111041107513712R/
and this agreement came into full effect on 1st Jan 2023.
During this time Chinas Regulatory system for suppliments became much stricter and the planned launch of products for the end of 2017 was delayed in favour of achieving Blue Cap for these products. The situation now is that B-H are in the process of applying for a new health function claim to be added to the list of permitted health function claims which will fit Fruitflow far better than any health claim on the list as it stands.
In the mean time, B-H have spent goodness knows how many hundreds of thousands of Dollars to make sure this happens by investing in numerus trials, 5 of which are complete, to satisfy SAMR that Fruitflow is as good as we all know it is.
So please forgive me for not agreeing with you.
In November 2016 we were informed by pxs board that byhealth has joined pxs to promote ff that's coming to 7 years and that has come to fruition i don't think we will anywhere with this,
and it will no doubt be released well in time for the next Olympics in summer '24, maximising the marketing opportunities
W$,
A good point about BH releasing FF+ Nitrates, I was forgetting about that. BH already have a product containing FF as I recall, but it is not for sale, only for athletes at present, it is probably that. That will be where the Team China collaboration plays a big part in the marketing.
2047!!!!!!
Probably I will be not alive
Dr_H
2047 is a bit mean - even for MrF.
From Aug 2019
first project which has been agreed will concentrate on the use of Fruitflow with nitrates in exercise, an area of considerable commercial interest to By-Health in China. Global product quickly after ?
Personally think DSM & BH will take us out 50/50 PDQ after SAMR.
W$
Its the English translation of the Provexis Chinese trademark for Fruitflow
Its the English translation of the Provexis Chinese trademark.
https://www.registrationchina.com/trademark-search/?value=%E8%BD%BB%E7%BB%9C%E7%B4%A0
They are using the new names Xeroxin and Qingluosu. Are these the new name of our great product Fruitflow?
Our profit share with DSM has now changed, so we will see more profits to PXS for ex-DSM customers.
2023 Will see a material impact on the profit attributed to PXS.
2024 will see more attributed to PXS
2025 will see more attributed to PXS
2026 will see more attributed to PXS
2027 will be the first year of ALL profits from ex-DSM customers allocated to PXS.
So in the 22/23 financial year (this year), we will see a jump in profits for Q4.
In the 23/24 financial year, starting in April this year, we will see Q1 - Q3 on 2023 share agreement, then Q4 at 2024 share agreement.
Then when we should see By-Health purchase FF from Provexis within the 23/24 financial year also. They have 2 major products ready to launch and will also need FF stock for their distribution customers.
DSM will now pay PXS full for the FF they purchase on their pre-mix and market ready solutions.
Then we should see some sales/profits return as lockdowns are scrapped.
PXS have some more distributors that are interested.
All in all, we should see some major growth in profits in the next financial year (23/24), which will be reported in September 24.
Following that, we will be looking at drug development, BH growing their customer base and DSM making inroads with FF as a gut-health product. Maybe the gut health will make good progress in 23/24?
Then in the year 2047 I think FF + Nitrates will launch and we will see customers which are part of global businesses :)
Happy new year!!!
Great work. Got to be close to submission