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I Hope im wrong but I assume Hudson have a never ending supply of cash from a large chinese company, what Bellzone owe them is peanuts, they will be granted the license when Bellzone run out of money?
idk what your feud here is but it's not with us, it's with simon and i know that u do not trust him. but some of us here do, and him being in AIM before, clearly knows how and the relevant actions needed. Honestly, why not pop an email to him and clarify with him your content, before getting back to us. it makes us really mentally sick reading things, not knowing if its true, based upon our own research, and not right out of the source's mouth. I do trust ur pov, and your facts. trust me. All the queensway syndicates and whatsoever. And how this BFS project might just be a hoax or idk whatever u call it. but, we just want the port deal to be done to avoid insolvency. not much hope, but at least something to hope about compared to CRA.
kabisko. idk why u are so pessimistic about this. but we really do hear u. and there's nothing we can do about it except wait and watch. yea. if u are right, u are gonna be laughing at all of us over here who bought in. but if it does work out, you are still gonna criticise us and say we got lucky this time. either ways, you already have a pov on this. and we get it. we do wanna get out of this unscathed, thus we are just hoping that a port deal will be done, and we can all move on from this. at least, give us that level of respect, and show us that there's that chance ( altho it's quite low), with whatever information that you have. yea, it can turn into a tragedy, for all you care but we just want to emerge out of this unscathed. that's all. we are honestly hoping this BOD would really carry out what they say. Yea, you might know your story. but clearly, we all know one thing -- we do not know nuts about the port, who owns it, who is interested in it, all except but the BOD of BZM. so, in that respect, we just gotta let them play the game. we do hear u, and we do get this will turn into a tragedy sooner or later if BZM continues drawing 0 revenue.. Just that, we are hoping it's not now that they will be doing this. feel us on this. thanks.
Hope no one here was also in CRA, suspended after close and seeking insolvency advice.
Bigbear2 good luck but I am afraid that this will turn to the tragedy. Yoda!
Any deal and you won't see those putting the boot in now for dust.
Port Deal = income, income = Hudson off our back, Hudson off back = DFS back on.
mull. i'm seriously thinking this could be slanting towards a very positive RNS. agreed with u. i just think that the bod knows what they are doing, especially when dealing with a port.
Welshie7 Thanks for taking the time and posting. This quote... "But I do suggest that given the content you've sent me, taken in aggregate I would change your pinch of salt to a cup full." ... is enough for me to sit and wait with a positive stance. The next RNS will be key.
I know but I am a bit surprised you didnt go directly to BZM wit this, but someone else has which is good..
that is right bigbear. my same sentiments. watch and wait and see how this plays out.
Many thanks for the update there….
IMHO there is a good chance of a compromise resolution here.
I don't buy into the Hudson sham theory and I believe we are simply seeing a game of brinksmanship here and the final resolution will be a deal, but not an optimal one in the terms Julian was referring to on last conf call. Any deal gives either a lump sum or income stream – that gives Hudson sight of the debt being paid down.
well @kabisko i honestly can't do anything about this but just watch and see. don't know whether i'm stupid, but i decided to listen to you to hold this share bc u said wait and see. now i'm seeing this. i guess simon was too lazy to explain anything, thus his reply being this.
@smileywiley I am dubious when Simon says that he can not know what is true or false in what he calls rumors or interpretations. But wait to see. Han Mochi
Hey thanks for the update from simon. He seems very optimistic that something is going to happen. That he does actually own the port and he knows what he is doing. But then again, kabisko you have your pov. Both are not wrong. Some things, we really dont know take for example the port asset. Kabisko and walko claims they have no rights but the bod says they do. So, it’s all a ? Perhaps, like what simon says, wait and see. There’s nothing else we can say. If kabisko is right, we would be dead. But, i just want to leave all of you with one note. BZM was never colluding with Hudson. That’s a fundamental fact thus the TOUGH negotiations they always have to batter about esp with CS. Moreover, the BOD knows that they shouldnt be touching something they dont own, less they break any rules and they could potentially go to jail for it. So, i suggest like what everybody sees, wait and see what happens. Look at investerinvester. So quiet after the latest RNS. Maybe he is just watching like the rest of us, hoping something good will happen.
Point now is: can BZM monetize the port asset? If they can, good for us. If they can’t, we suck it up. Altho there are really frauds that happened, i guess the best we can do is to lodge a case on CS ( at worse) or just suck it up and see what happens after that. Let’s just wait and watch how this plays out. Simon isn’t stupid to put a trading halt for no reason.
Let wait and see as Simon tells you.
I am responsible of my words in public. Mcautious.
I was curious, so emailed Simon for a response (sent him across Kabisko's posts from Monday to today).
His response was:
Thanks for taking the time to put this together. The content is interesting but only as an exercise in analysing how wrong a rumour mill can be. As you would expect, I cannot confirm to you which parts are "right" or have some basis in truth/fact and which parts are wrong, whether by simple fact or by being interpreted in the wrong context. But I do suggest that given the content you've sent me, taken in aggregate I would change your pinch of salt to a cup full. There are plenty of fundamental errors in what these exchanges purport to be facts such that, if I started to explain everything, I would be writing a short book. I would also have the FCA all over me, so I cannot!
As the stock is now suspended, I suggest you simply have to wait to see what happens. I wouldn't burn any more energy on the bulletin boards if I were you.
Regards,
Simon
You are free to do whatever you want. I don't suggest to do that for me but you can report for my allegations that's seems to you very strange. My goal is not to convince you but to call your réflexion. Han Mochi
In our culture we dont usually make allegations by proxy !
If you are making the allegations it is more appropriate to submit them yourself.
WY will I address to Simon I don't trust him. Is the consern part. Up to you to report my allegations to whom you want. Yoda!
REALL. I agree, and you have always kept your head whilst keeping up with the drivel! I've always believed that 'big names' like Simon Brickles aren't going to be drawn into a mess like Bellzone without a good reason behind it. Simon and chums are there for a reason. The value of the port has always been missed here... I believe Simon and chums are there to unlock the asset's true economic value and such an outcome will move the sp. Of course I could be wrong... But I'll certainly go with my own theories rather than listening to some random folk who can't even spell or string proper a sentence together... Such caring folk!
Fully agree mull and real. Alot of jokes on the bb before i went missing
Kabisko You would do better to put all your concerns/allegations/conduct of the BOD/company (based on your exceptional knowledge) to Simon Edwards. Im sure he will be able to provide some clarity for you. Please, do forward what Simon has to say regarding your allegations/conduct of the BOD/company. I'm especially interested in the allegation that Bellzone are not in a position to monetize the port. They have been updating the market, that monetizing the port is a 'viable' option for the company and discussions continue according to the last RNS.
Tad people here are assuming the worst case scenario and if it happens then we need to get to the bottom of it, some big names involved with bzm one who used to be the head of Aim, so it’s serious matter, however if this survives and goes back to trading then even an army of derampers wouldn’t stop sp from rocketing no matter what the deal is!
This board has turned into a farce since suspension. I think the people posting most of the drivel don’t actually understand that this cannot be traded when suspended,”.