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CNEL affect - China green energy is now cool :-)
Well she went up today the buyers back, not long before the massive re rate.
Think we already had the storm that's the one which has ripped the sp apart now let's hope it's over and something positive states to happen.
Is it a lull before the storm lol
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Thanks for the reply and lets hope we do get some good news soon to shift the sp upwards and get us out of this hole we stuck in.
below is excerpt from the June accounts, they haven't told us how much loss on investment would be, fingers crossed; "In September 2015, Taiwan Ziolar secured further investment from an independent investor. The Company's ownership has been significantly diluted as a result of the investment and Taiwan Ziolar is now an affiliate of the Company. The Group has negotiated an arrangement with Taiwan Ziolar and its new majority shareholders such that the Group will benefit from the use of the intellectual property if Taiwan Ziolar is successful in the development of its technologies in the future. The Group has not made any provisions for its Taiwan Ziolar investment for 1H 2015 but will review its investment value for the full financial year ending 31 December 2015."
Prophet margin, its a profit generating Company so I think its M.Cap should be greater than its Net Assets. At 24/25p M.Cap equals Net Assets but I think for a profit generating Company it should be 1.5x net assets at least. Which is 36p. On another note, Interim performance was excellent, with a profit after tax of £1.7m. So 2015 expectation should be £3.4m, but they didn't book their loss on that Taiwan Zolar investment as of June. So their full year profit could be slightly above £1m (unless we hear something different from the Company). So its left up to the investors to interpret the way they like.
Morning John I actually raised a question to Concentrated but I didn't mean to say that he is wrong. He has got his own perception about ACE and I've got mine, and he may prove right at the end of the day and I could be wrong. What updates I am expecting? I am just hoping for an update on September (Q3) results first and some information on whether or not they are likely to meet their targets. Larger Companies remain in touch with their shareholders more frequently but I admit ACE may not speak to us before audited YE results. You mentioned interims, you remember after interims some ppl here (probably riddler) were saying that these are un-audited results and they could only rely on the audited results. Half year performance was good but for some reasons it failed to improve the share price.
Whatever,but we still stuck in a very bad place.
I don't think it's continually dropping. Actually, I think the downtrend is over. It is just bobbing along at the bottom at the moment. That's quite a big positive...
Way not why
The why the sp is continually dropping we be lucky to stay afloat let alone hit that sort of figure but I still in and hoping for a miracle but as I asked Pete987 what news is due as I stated the finals won't be till after April so unless we get a order rns there is nothing due to stop this rot or have I missed something?
Hello john8833 just been going back through Petes posts. This one from 2nd November would be nice if it happens 'John, I bought some shares on 27 Oct. I have credit card bills to pay so cannot buy further until next pay day. But probably the share price will hit 40p by 28 Nov :) Lets see' 40p ? Early Christmas present
Still no answer from you.
You say we nearly at year end and mention update well we not long had the interim and finals not due till next April at earliest so what update are you expecting?
Hey John The only deciding factor here is "Integrity of the management". If they are clean and not fraudsters, and only market perception is bad about them, then this stock value will significantly improve in future. However, if the management is fraud then the bottom will be zero as said. I wish you good luck but may I just suggest that in future you do not invest more than 20% of your hard earned money in AIM. Investors have made huge amounts of profits recently on FTSE 100 Companies like Taylor Wimpy. Once you get your lucky day and make a huge gain on ACE investment, follow this strategy. 80% in big companies and 20% in risky AIM ones. GL and have a great weekend
Dear Concentrated We are so much close to the Year end. Should we really book our losses at this stage? What if the update comes that 2015 performance had been as per forecast?
Cut your losses and move on, John. I have seen too many people get too attached the way you are, and they always end up losing more than they could have afforded to. Losers average losers.
Wish I had the same positive attitude as you but I have not as I bought in at 6 then 5 then 2.5 and yesterday at 1.78 so as you can see all I doing is watching my hard earned disappear ,each time I bought I thought it was the bottom but I starting to believe the bottom is zero.
oh sorry I meant to say John
Hi Pete I don't bother if doesn't regain its natural price within few days or weeks. If it goes back to 30/40p level even by June 2016, I would be happy as I have a strong feeling that this is a "life changing stock". At this time of confusion, we just need to hold our nerves and have faith in this very good Company. True there was some cash flow problem (now resolved) but this Company doesn't have ANY external debts. The only reason it is at this level because investors are not confident about the Chinese markets. And various brokers are promoting crappy Companies but no-one (except WH Ireland) is promoting this one. Lets see when the brokers start promoting this and the situation will reverse completely. As far as the recent sells are concerned, many ppl here are saying that it's David Sumner. I was thinking why would David sell his shares if he knows that the Company is good? I thinking the investor who took £1.5m worth of shares back in June at the price of 4.5p is getting desperate and selling his shareholdings. Its just a guess until we know who is selling million/half a million shares on a daily basis. Goodluck PIs, we are expecting more investors on the pay day 28 November :)
So not going the way we want it and it don't look like any sign of going up only further down.
It's gone so bad here even riddler has give up.