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As previously stated top line is revenue, bottom line is profit.
Are you still invested here?
I thought as this is a company draining its money away and not ensuring its share holders have any way of getting their hard earned cash back that you would have realised this by now and sold up making a loss and then buying into a company that pays its shareholders a dividend every month and allowing its shareholders to make a profit on their shares.
I also have been investing for many years, admit risk is always there, not to say we expect our cash cutting in half and some, for others, my assumption was investing in a steady building aim company, all appeared to be going in the right direct until an RNS's announcing Nasdaq, several new staff, followed by company advisors at cost, hitting the top line.
The above done during world financial collapse, the markets were already twitchy and are aware of financial change. Imo this can been be seen in today's share price and no sign of recovery to 2016 level. Nasdaq listing charges are a consideration.
Perhaps I wasn't clear, I've been wiped out twice and taken a big hit here, had a few years break from the S/M, regret investing hindsight.
No SOH hasn't delivered and is moving us away with extra salaries and possible Nasdaq fees.
Regarding company progress contracts etc, I'm only interested my cash balance or lack of it, who is to blame, lays with the pilot and his decisions, firms can have dead wood draining their bank, at investors cost, everyone is getting paid in full while a majority lose, a few had fortune to invest at todays price or enter at year low, we didn't have hindsight at that point.
Unsure how this will pan out, was expecting steady 70's early 2021, why would a firm employ extra staff with world financial collapse and decimated interest rates, especially while posting loss.
I have been investing for almost 40 years - I like to think I have grasped the concept of managing my own money by investing it and accepting the risk associated with my own research and the company/vehicle I invest in. You on the other hand seem to be making the assumption a rising share price is proof of a company's commercial progress and the success of the board's strategy; at least that was the impression I had of you until you suggest otherwise. AIM in particular is littler with examples of contradiction, that we appear to agree on.
I do not know how you arrived at the conclusion I have been wiped out twice? I have never been wiped out. I have lost money on a punt and an investment like most people have or will in their time eventually. It is the law of averages.
I am unsure of the point or points you are attempting to labour? Are you suggesting SOH has not delivered on his business strategy? If the answer is yes, I agree up to a point.
Have certain parts of the B2B taken longer than you or I for that matter anticipated? SweetBiotix spring to mind. Yes, it has taken much longer than I hoped for. But, I also realise my expectations were unrealistic, hence why I adopted a strategy of speaking to each member of the board responsible for the technology; Christina, Per, Fred, SOH, etc. The idea being to deep dive into the whole process from protecting the IP, incorporating it into new products and what this entailed, including regulatory hurdles as well as shelf-life tests. We as investors needed to go on a steep learning curve, and yes, I include myself in this. But, I could always say to myself the company was making progress and always derisking my investment. I am just more patient than you.
I think some investors are comfortable accepting they got their timing wrong or are running out of patience and move on. Others like to deflect the blame and take no responsibility - The former will be more successful.
You honestly invest in the assumption your money is "safe" ? you clearly do not understand the relationship between risk and reward. I thought if you had been "wiped out" on a couple of occasions you might have understood this. I invest on the basis there is no fraud in the signed off accounts (even then as a qualified accountant I read all of the notes and accounting policies), everything else is open to interpretation and risk.
There is no direct relationship between a company progressing and the share price. The company is in a far better commercial and financial position than a couple of years ago, and with a real asset in stbx, and yet as you say the share price is lower. AIM both over and under prices at various times.
Remember SOH is a very significant shareholder and I don't think "splashes the cash", any spend appears to be made with current and future revenue streams in mind. They continue on "full pay", no the company is paying them in accordance with their signed terms and conditions of contract.
I am not fantastically happy with the share price and am critical of aspects of reporting. Overall I do feel the company is going on the right direction, not ramping but I do feel the current share price is depressed below its real value and opportunity.
elrico sorry your missing the whole point of investing, we invest in a company believing our hard earned money is safe, not to see it drain away, for some their value is cut in half, nothing else matters, if a company is progressing so does the share price, this is the most important part of investing. I'm unable to post positive with heavy loss, not happy with them splashing our money while showing loss.
The facts are, how ever dressed up, the price from high is more than half, how can that inspire confidence in long term holders.
Doesn't matter what is posted by RNS if the SP doesn't respond positive, they are written by people with vested interest, little like government one sided spin, they continue with full pay while their spin effects the general public purse.
Because of my statement yes I'm very critical, I've seen this so many times before and been wiped twice, there comes a point where we have to speak out, at break even I will change my stance providing management concentrate on profit before spending more of our cash on staff, this being the pitfall of many aim companies.
Summary repeat, all that matters is the share price the rest is conjecture, for want of a better word.
Best wishes wlw.
I never said you do not have a right to complain. I merely point out the fact you are always critical and always moaning.
I do not read you moaning about £15m of equity-free ride OPTI has in SBTX and which almost certainly set to multi-bag from current levels again. This is a significantly discounted OPTI and is nothing short of an insurance policy. The fact the market has no respect for this just yet is probably down to the fact there are a few more peeps like you that can't see the blinding obvious.
We also have to accept OPTI has become overvalued on both occasions it breached £1. Harping on about the historical SP only serves to punish yourself.
Do not misunderstand me. I can tell I have been sourly frustrated on occasions. However, I do remind myself of my stated strategy, so whining about the SP instead of taking advantage of the opportunity is my own fault, not SOH. Has he made mistakes, hell yeah, name me a CEO that has not. Name me an AIM SP that has not spiked and lost 13/rd or more of its value. It happens more than you perhaps think, more so with growth companies where most of the investors are retail and not II. Something the company needs to work on.
Just need to get Optis slimbiome products properly marketed in GB as part of a weight management plan such as lighter life, which is akin to Australia's OptiPharm Optislim prog
UK's Covid death toll fuelled by its obesity problem, say experts
Britain was found to have the third highest death rate in the world, and the fourth highest obesity rate
3 March 2021 • 10:00pm
The WHO has said the 'correlation between obesity and coronavirus mortality rates is clear'
The WHO has said the 'correlation between obesity and coronavirus mortality rates is clear' CREDIT: Dominic Lipinski,/PA
Britain's Covid death toll has been fuelled by its obesity epidemic, experts have said, as global research finds nine in 10 fatalities occurred in countries with a weight problem.
Britain was found to have the third highest death rate in the world and the fourth highest obesity rate, with more than than two in three adults overweight or obese.
The study by the World Obesity Federation examined almost 100 countries and found that 2.2 million of 2.5 million deaths occurred in countries with high levels of obesity. Overall, death rates were found to be 10 times higher in countries where more than half the population was overweight.
It found that not a single country with low levels of obesity had a coronavirus death rate higher than 10 per 100,000 population. No country with death rates above 100 per 100,000 had less than 50 per cent of its population overweight
Obesity has already been found to increase the risk of death from Covid-19 by around 50 per cent, as well as increasing the risk of severe disease, and the World Health Organisation said the report should act as a "wake-up call" for governments to tackle their nations' obesity problems.
The country with the lowest Covid death rate was Vietnam, which has one of the lowest levels of excess weight in its population, with 18 per cent overweight. Japan and Singapore were also singled out for their low levels of obesity and deaths from Covid.
In 2008, Japan introduced the "Metabo law", which requires everyone between the ages of 40 and 74 to get annual measurements of their waist circumference. Employers of those with waistlines above approved limits are required to provide weight loss classes.
Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the director-general of the World Health Organisation, said: "This report must act as a wake-up call to governments globally. The correlation between obesity and mortality rates from Covid-19 is clear and compelling.
"Investment in public health and coordinated, international action to tackle the root causes of obesity is one of the best ways for countries to build resilience in health systems post-pandemic. We urge all countries to seize this moment."
Dr Tim Lobstein, the author of the report, senior policy adviser to the World Obesity Federation and visiting professor at the University of Sydney, said: "We now know that an overweight population is the next pandemic waiting
- Grow up and own your decisions
- You rabbit on about hype, did you not do research and understand what you were buying ?
- Either sell if you don't believe you will reach your buy price, or stay based on Rational level headed analysis
I am slightly loss making and I expect due to the amount I expect this is a far greater £ amount than you, my decision.
Please do not provide your recommendations on business improvement or change to increase the sp, they are laughable.
Its called losing money elrico....
I have every right to complain after being under water for months, add on my isa fee loss, same old... Repeat, while a number of us suffer loss for many months management increase their numbers at our expense, talk of spending more cash on Nasdaq listing, ok for those drawing full pay plus fringe benefits, regardless of shareprice performance, the blunt truth.
Woolworth, those small trades of 5 shares and others like them, as we discussed recently are not trades made by retail punters.
Maybe if you spent less time sniping at other members of this board and blocking users with whom you don't agree you might learn something about the company.
I often wonder why people like bother wasting your time on these forums, the realise the irony of me wasting my time wondering about you wasting your time. ????
I think our perceptive of ''hype'' is very different. There are very few financial outlets ''hyping'' OPTI. Me, ************* and IMC being the latest. There is very little noise around OPTI on SM sites. So, please do explain where all the hype is?
If you are a frustrated investor you have a really simple decision to make. If you do not believe in key proponents of the B2B working as SOH explained in the IMC presentation yesterday, move on, There literally 1000s of option in the UK alone. Twitter is full of overhyped companies you can gamble on. What OPTI is doing is building a sustainable business on a shoestring budget. Sure, we can ***** and moan about progress, but have any of us run a complex company?
You can harp of a bleet about the company's progress over the past 6-plus years, but you will do so ignoring the commercial traction did not really start until 2019. You will also ignore the incredible achievement of made in spanning 120 countries with c80 agreements across the whole value chain and all on a total £8.5m raised, which included the IPO. You may as well ignore the value of SBTX NOW ON THE BOOKS FOR ZERO.
You may as well ignore the covid impact for good measure.
Yup, much to ***** and moan about.
Two £2.65p trades this morning, kinda says something, this doesn't appear to be going anywhere quick, regardless of hype.
Suppose H/B sales will help towards additional staff and advisors wages, only my opinion.?
oops sorry in holland and barretts should have been included in my last post
hi all OPTI,s slim expert is in local store ready for big window display soon