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Hi Mr Jinx ,
To be clear I threatened to sue no one. Simon, Peter. Shedlife, low life or anyone...
I merely mentioned the potential repercussions of libellous accusations aimed at posters.
Quite a difference from threatening to sue someone .
However it can be dropped now , let’s discuss the company please.
Many thanks ..
Hi Mr Jinx,
Sorry, we do seem to agreeing to disagree sort off but again no issues .
This thing you have about robust business modelling, what aspect of the LOIs would have not taken those into account ? For any LOI to be in have been offered and in place, just like a business loan offer From a bank , robust business modelling would have have to have been proven and shown to the lenders , If the gas is there in the qtys mooted and there is a market for it at the prices mooted , which the company tell us is correct, then that is your business model I am not sure what part of the robust modelling is irking you ?
My apology was sincerely genuine, thanks for accepting.
I have made an error though. You threatened to sue that Simon chap, not Shedlife. Apologies to all involved. :)
“I think it will be in place, you don’t seem to think so , yet you still hold on here ...you have a choice if you don’t believe what the company are saying or doing.”
Where have I said or intimidated that...?
Did you even read my post or did you peruse it and jump to a conclusion?
My post was related to the discussion at the time regarding lending. Not once did I say Chariot wouldn’t get funding. I merely highlighted that there wouldn’t be investment without ‘robust economic modelling’. To use your phrase, it’s quite simple really.
Re: your apology, it’s appreciated but there really is no need. You should read the ****e sent to me on football forums. It makes LSE boards read like a Pulitzer Prize winning novel.
Hi Mr Jinx,
All duly noted, the threat was nothing other than a jibe at his attempt to flame and discredit me.
I have nothing against you, however you have got very defensive here,
I will continue to post facts and When forming my opinion I will state so.
You should do the same if it is your opinion only nothing less. I have nothing against anything you post.
I acknowledge your view, however I think you will find Chariot has already undertaken an EIA and this was stated in one of the interviews ( unless I am mistaken ) we haven’t gone to Feed yet so all you are asking for will come IMO.
As far as business lending goes, that will all be based on reserves and gas off take agreements if they don’t prove reserves , they wont have any GSAs and they Will not get finance, of course. It’s simple.
The points you are raising are completely moot at this stage of the jigsaw corners going on, quite clearly for the project to happen and be a success all of what you are questioning will need to be in place. If it isn’t in place , it won’t happen. It’s all pretty Simple. I think it will be in place, you don’t seem to think so , yet you still hold on here ...you have a choice if you don’t believe what the company are saying or doing.
Unfortunately I entered into some playground antics today and I apologise,
If we stick to polite discussion and debate based on facts and / or opinions only , then I have no issues with anything you say.
Shareholder, you still haven’t specified what it was about my post that was negative about Chariot, or indeed why I should have put ‘IMO’.
The three main tenets of the original post, which uncannily got deleted were:
1. No investment firm will lend without seeing robust economic modelling
2. Chariot has yet to publish an Environmental Impact study.
2a Chariot has yet to publish a full feasibility study.
3. Chariot can still achieve a farm out, without the above being in place.
Tell me how they’re either lies, untruths or exaggerated somehow? In fact, tell me how they’re negative and critical of Chariot.
I find all this rather perplexing. I’ve been on this board years. I’ve been on this board at times where the only people posting has been me, Growler, Gooner and Precious. There have been weeks that not a single post has been made except ours. We’ve ridden this ride to where we thought we’d be rich, right down to 1.67p a share. What ever I have posted has merit whether positive or negative. The fact that whatever I’ve said has always come to pass seems forgotten on you ‘new’ fella’s.
It should also be noted that since the board sacked Bottomley, I have posted nothing that may be classed as negative. Even this last three weeks when the most tremendous rubbish has been posted, I’ve said nothing. Does that sound like someone trying to derail a recovery?
Your issue appears to be that you want to censor grown up debate as you’d like to live in your own echo chamber where only your version of events is credible. As it happens, I think Shedlife, or whatever his name is, is an irritant but he shouldn’t be threatened with being sued. That’s just plum crazy talk. Regarding hiding behind avatars, you’re absolutely right. However, they get sued because they actually name someone or something that’s recognisable in real life. An anonymous avatar ‘defaming’ another anonymous avatar just doesn’t exist. How can it?
All this in my very own opinion.
Whimax you beat me to it - all we can legitimately expect is some news before the end of the year because that is what the previous RNS indicated. There are a lot of companies out there that release RNS just for the sake of it and they suffer the consequences when their RNS lose impact. I like the fact that Chariot have said that they will only RNS when they have something tangible to say. They have indicated more news to come , which could be next week or it could be weeks away. Either is consistent with the last RNS. I also think we should not bite the hand that feeds us. We are fortunate to have shareholders who take the time and trouble to liaise with the company, and who are good enough to share that information with others. They are an asset to this message board. Finally, I have not read anything IMO which comes close to being insider information. I would be surprised if there are not covid 19 delays given the multinational dimension of this project and the LD. That is not insider information - more a statement of the (likely) bleedingly obvious. I think the kind of doubt/negativity that has creeped in would be more appropriate in say 6 weeks' time if we have not heard anything at all by then - even if that is a more general and upbeat update rather than anything more concrete because that is what they have indicated. All IMO and GLA
I have to say, I’m not sure I understand why some (especially long term holders) are becoming “frustrated” at this stage. It’s only a little over 3 weeks since we got the EOI Rns and we are talking about trying to bring a multi billion £ asset to fruition. At what pace to people expect this to happen???
The share price has risen 300% or so in last 6 weeks. If someone had told me in August we’d be sitting at 9p in November and we’d have a real shot at being Morocco to market, I’d have taken their hand off.
I think some need a bit of a reality check in terms of time scales and share price increase. We have been told we will have updates before the end of the year, so that is what I’m expecting. When those updates come I am expecting a further re rate in the share price. I’ve been here for 10 years+ (And I know others have too) so a another few weeks or month isn’t going to make the slightest difference.
The only only people who should really be concerned at this stage (and it’s becoming apparent that this is the case) are short term traders (who I care not a jot about), those who have sold and are hoping to buy back in cheaper, and those who fear they have missed the boat (which to some extent they already have) and are hoping beyond hope that this will drop back under 5p so they can buy in and feel better about their entry price.
Best way to deal with naysayers, is to just keep re posting the facts as we have them, rather than being drawn in to petty squabbles. Don’t forget, Disrupting the BB is what these people set out to do. Good, factual posts get lost in the dross and knowledgeable posters get fed up posting and stop. Don’t let the loonies take over the asylum.
News could literally drop at any time which could take this to 25p, then the same people will be back trying to talk the price down to 18p for their entry.
I have no intentions of being drawn into playground feuds and I apologise on my side.
There are a lot of characters appeared of late posting pretty rubbish stuff which is most certainly not collaborated or beneficial to genuine shareholders , what a coincidence this all happens just when the SP has retraced from its break signs of progress and first signs of doubt are appearing with shareholders.
We are all frustrated, even me, believe me, if I find out i have got things wrong here I will take immediate action but everything I am seeing and hearing is not telling me this.
There are a massive amount of complex pieces to this jigsaw we are trying to put in place, Covid has clearly effected that to some extent like it has to All companies trying to achieve progress over the last year. Indeed this has been commented on by the like ps of MGW and Simon Thompson.
I hope we can stabilise this coming week, I also hope we do get an update.. however i don’t know the answers to either of those.
All the best and apologies from me .
oh dear, this looks like a case of handbags at dawn.
No one has posted insider information and Shareholderchar has made his position quite clear. Clearly SHC will be acutely aware of the implications of posting confidential information, so I question why anyone would want to challenge that.
People clearly dont research and rely on bulletin boards for information. Shedlight being a case in principle. According to him the Lixus development is going to be cost prohibitive because its too deep. Had he spent 30 seconds researching he would have discovered 850m depth is nothing. North Sea oil, which the UK has been exporting for years , has rigs up to 2km deep yet UK makes substantial monies from that alone.
That underpins the potential for Lixus, not only being less that 1/2 the depth, but the added advantage of being gas.
Rather than squabbling and revealing ignorance, try researching and contributing to a mature process, where all can benefit. Unless of course you have an ulterior motive.
Board has really turned into a snake pit
Reminds me of the old days,not mentioning any names .
Goodluck all holders
Hi Mr Jinx,
I’ve no beef with you, but you really should use the IMO before you make statements here that you seem to wish to be believed as factual . You do have a habit of that especially when it comes to The negative ( so called deramping ) statements which you post quite frequently.
I think you will find the world of anonymity behind avatars has moved on since last time you looked in, indeed many recent cases of the people behind the avatars , on boards being bought into the legal system and getting more frequent .
I think if you read carefully the fine print on LSE and other forum boards, you will clearly see embedded such legal verbatim to that effect.
In short, Avatars and the people behind those are most certainly not subject to the anonymity you advocate in this modern age of social media and I do not need an IMO in front of that .
I am sure you now see this a little tete a tete on response to my last post to you. , ‘twas not me that asked for your post to be removed for you making clear statements in your post intending to be factual when indeed you have no knowledge they were and an IMO should have been used, which of course is perfectly acceptable to prefix such statements in your opinion...
As far as my huge legal team in which you refer to, You are stating that as another fact of which you have absolutely no substance to collaborate. Again the use of IMO is really advised.
I am just trying to keep you out of trouble Mr Jinx, nothing more.
Like you’d sue anybody off a bulletin board... :D) I’ve read some complete ****e on here over the last three weeks but crikey, this takes the prize.
You do realise that you’d need to prove defamation of character? How would you do that when Shareholderchar is a pretend title that allows anonymity. I’m sure I don’t need to tell you that pretend people can’t sue...Unless of course you can prove a value to ‘Shareholderchar’ and a link to your real self. I’m surprised your huge legal team didn’t tell you this before you threatened legal action.
Maybe I will Simon, maybe I will.. I will let you think about that..
However for now, I will just probably block you as LSE advise to do with troublesome posters.
I urge others to do the same, now that you have been truly outed as someone who has absolutely no Interest or even desire to learn about anything this company is trying to achieve for genuine shareholders.
Half decent attempt to cause havoc and shareholder distress, also throwing in the libellous inside information card, ( which will be looked into ) however my guess is , you will need to move on soon enough.
Report me then, or sue me, hilarious
Are you squirming now Simon, ?
So instead of looking to see if that comment was substantiated by other such comments on the market domain by professional reporters and other posters ( which it was) you decided to throw the inside information accusation at me.
That’s potentially very very serious Simon.
I stand by my comment and I stand by the fact that if anything material had changed from what has been released by the board in presentations and RNS notifications, there would have to be an announcement. Do you see one ATM ?
Why don’t you put it out and ask if any other genuine shareholders here, have seen any reference in recent presentations, reports, interviews about general Covid related delays...
This is what I read, does everyone here know of delays, I think not
“To date all my coms with the board and their IR/PR outlet stress very vehemently and consistently that everything is progressing as clearly advised in RNS announcements and presentations. albeit with some slight Covid related delays...”.
Good try Simon but pretty pathetic.
If you openly read the updates and reports from Malcom Graham wood, proactive investors, Zak Mir etc, And indeed many other posters on here, you will have realised what a rather silly and indeed potentially libellous statement You have just posted there, of course you don’t read anything , as all you are interested in is a deramp to buy and a spike to sell..just now you are trying your best to get it down to a buying mode of course IMO.
It is open market news that chariot have suffered Covid related delays, so again ,good try but potentially libellous with that insinuation to me.
I have disclosed my position very clearly and have at all times made it known very clearly That I ask for and I receive absolutely nothing back that is not in market domain , in my perfectly legal and healthy relationship with the company as a major investor.
If you wish to make something further of this, let me know ..and we can certainly look to go that way.
Shareholderchar, I will respond, as you have mentioned me in your post, yes we have all the ingredients here, the self nominated cheerleader with an ear to the ground, with a high stake and low average, trying to manage sentiment,the derampers, rampers, winners, losers.
I will say that with your “ear” at the board and very high stake, currently aprx a million pounds, that you are a conflicted on here, for instance you stated earlier they may be a slight delay with news, I don’t think anyone else was privy to that information, that does give you an unfair advantage over others here. If any other negative information is relayed to you would you pass that on also or keep it to your advantage.
Yes it is , it’s all getting rather interesting isn’t it .
We have a supposed shareholder in Shedlight who says he is a shareholder and his average is 7.1 p and yet is doing all he can in his posting style to deramp the SP down as fast as possible by as much as possible , quite intriguing that MO ? Apparently he make killings on Aim..so he says.
We now have Simon the super gunn Aim trader, who admittedly now only trades , never holds and couldn’t give a toss about the company’s long term prospects. Which is fine of course, if this is is MO.
At least I have got the truth out of him...
Hopefully other posters can see straight through him now and his posts here on Chariot.
Then we have one of the teenage mutant turtles Who is either a teenager or Shedlight , or maybe both, I’m not quite sure..
Yes indeed they are coming out now..
I have had coms with the board, they are acutely aware of the change of sentiment here and again know the need to keep progress happening,.
Only few weeks until xmas... news will come.
You know as soon as this many derampers arrive, you are on the cusp of something good great.
We’ve even got one whose utterly convinced Morocco will fail, that the share price will head significantly lower, and yet maintains a position at 7.1p when the share price is currently 9p.
Couldn’t make it up lol.