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Share Price: 28.00Bid: 28.00Ask: 29.00Change: 1.50 (+5.66%)Riser - Igas Energy
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adoubleuk
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RE: Coward Crane
Today 19:49
Yeah (didn't see it 'cos can't receive it where I live) but he was 'outside with the antis' was he? Not having a nice tea and biscuits while giving his 'expert views' to the council? What a shame. Still, the weight-loss won't do any harm.
 
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RE: It's going to take time
Today 18:55
OK,

Sorry, not going back to that link.

Because Berghouse sent a better one regarding the webmaster, a certain Mr John Hobbes. Who got a BSc in French (Huh? since when is French a BSc?)

I too, strangely enough, have my academic qualifications in the arts, though coming from a very polymath background, now have 37 years' practical oilfield experience under my belt, whereas Mr Hobbes appears to have none.

Quote: "John speaks fluent French, basic German, limited Spanish and can order a beer in Japanese and Italian."

Great. Fluent French myself, limited Spanish, can discuss oilfield stuff in Italian (having worked some years offshore in the Adriatic), not interested in German, and can order a beer in any county in the world, providing they serve it. And during my career (not counting stop-overs in airports and that stuff) I've worked 22 so far.

Great CV Mr Hobbes (who by the way, graduated six years after myself.)!

This has in fact piqued my interest a bit more, so I may actually re-check the link to see what he's got to say about frac fluids!
adoubleuk
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RE: It's going to take time
Today 18:38
jonci,

"The poster posts under the name "Refracktaction", (on Disqus) and from what I could make out in the conversation, he/she is a management consultant. "

OK. (Haven't found time yet to go and look further, though 'Berghaus' seems to have nailed my initial impression already.)

The webmaster / creator of that site is a 'management consultant', eh? It would be nice to know how that term can actually be defined. A synonym might be 'someone who thinks they know how to do your job better than you can, and wants people to see that, without necessarily providing any proper credentials as to how it will be achieved'. A bulsh**ter wanting a free ride, in other words.

At home, my cats see me as a 'management consultant', because (a) I buy the catfood and (b) when they go 'meow!', I allocate them some in their dish. But behind my back, they probably just consider me to be their waiter.
chrishutch
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another good day
Today 18:26
joncl
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RE: It's going to take time
Today 17:10
Hi Berghaus
Thanks for your comments.
Unfortunately, this kind of stuff is what the likes of Ineos, Cuadrilla and iGas are up against.
The anti fracking lobby is a strange alliance of green lobbyists with an anti fossil fuels agenda, political activists who want to change society, general rabble rousers, opportunists like Crane who jump on the band wagon to line their own pockets and profit from fear, but more importantly, genuinely concerned local people who are getting a plethora of messages from all directions.
The industry needs to focus on cutting through the rubbish and outright lies put about by these various groups and address the genuine concerns of local people. If they can achieve that, then there will be progress.
joncl
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RE: It's going to take time
Today 16:53
Hi adoubleuk
I picked up the www.refracktaction.com on a Daily Telegraph discussion thread re Cuadrilla.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/energy/fracking/11373819/Cuadrilla-fracking-votes-delayed-for-at-least-two-months-Lancashire-council-decides.html
The poster posts under the name "Refracktaction", (on Disqus) and from what I could make out in the conversation, he/she is a management consultant. There was quite a debate going on about the hazards of hydrochloric acid and another poster was trying to explain that hazard of HCL depends on concentration, but "Refrackaction" was having none of it.
The debate got quite acrimonious towards the end (or should I say acidic).
Berghaus
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RE: It's going to take time
Today 16:44
I'll give you my opinion on the site, jon.... it's BALONEY. It's a nicely designed site but utterly full of complete hokum. The guy that runs it has no expertise in the industry (quelle surprise!) but he can order a beer in Japanese and Italian;
http://www.planfact.co.uk/tpf_cvjh.htm

From his website I would suggest he can probably order a steaming pile of poop in plain English as well!
Funnily enough, for a man who claims that the shale industry if full of weasel words he does employ a few weaselly tricks himself. For instance, he states "the industry’s own data shows that between 18% and 45% of wells worldwide were found to have integrity issues" yet provides nothing to back this up so it becomes another pretend fact. As for HCl being an acid that is "both hazardous and corrosive" I think that's probably a good thing since if it wasn't then your lunch would sit in your stomach undissolved. The entire site is so filled with *c*r*a*p that it just makes you sigh and think, why bother countering it? adouble is the man to ask and has countered all of this kind of nonsense with his posts on here many times before.
adoubleuk
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RE: It's going to take time
Today 16:31
joncl,

Thanks for the link. Interesting, but as usual dumber than a sack of hammers. It doen't mention who the people composing it are. And on the homepage, there's so much use of phrases like 'we believe' or 'these issues'. But without knowing the originators' qualifications, why should I listen to what 'they believe'? They might as well be talking about the tooth-fairy.

I didn't go to the frac-fluid recipes bit, because I was distracted by a 'trucks and more trucks' header. Which made me laugh. Because there was a picture of a 'monstrous' 26m3 tanker (a rigid, not a semi) followed by an explanation of how many of these would be clogging up the backroads bringing water to the site. Oh dear. I'm afraid my own experience is of the company drilling its own water-well, and also possibly tying into local water supply, but in a very regulated manner thus not to disturb local water distribution.

I'll go back and investigate further, but on first glance it's the usual bunch of misinformed jokers.
joncl
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It's going to take time
Today 15:00
Tom Crotty (Ineos) was interviewed by Andrew Neil on the Politics Show this morning. Neil asked Crotty whether the opposition was now looking overwhelming and that they'd already lost their case. Crotty welcomed the Scottish moratorium on fracking and said that it will give the industry an opportunity and time to gain the public's confidence with evidence based information and counter the misinformation being bandied about (or words to that effect).
I think this is going to be a long job, but I also think evidence based data will stand the test of time over emotive arguments, so in this respect it' may be bad news for the anti fracking lobby.
Meanwhile here's an example of what they are up against. and I suggest you read the section on fracking fluids in particular. Perhaps those experienced in drilling technology would give their opinion.
http://www.refracktion.com/





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