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Casper: re your message at 11:54, I agree with you about AP. I also appreciate your sidenote. I've no idea who was so over-sensitive as to have the post removed rather than debate the points of substance but I'm glad you thought it was fair and balanced, as it was meant to be.
one resolution could be...if...again its a big IF.....atlas has forward sold 241m shares...IS..
placee's are always keen to sell their shares....and i believe they have already started this process....so why not......come in agreement with ATLAS off market and make a DEAL....
placees can sell 241M shares at ?? amount to atals ..placees happy....atlas happy....shareholders happy....
Has ATLAS decided to BUY back forward sold shares??..yes or no? i dont know....but BUYING is picking up...
wouldnt be surprised if mm's are AIDING atlas
sandy....."In fairness to Casper, AP probably would say that to a judge, though :-)"
in fairness i believe AP would say that and mean it.....he has lots to put right...he has to win back the TRUST of shareholders especially LTH's...only way to do it is on GROUND and producing results....imo we have turned the corner ..we shall see in times ahead if indeed we have or not...
on sidenote.....i read your post lastnight....i think it was fair and balanced ...writing few negatives re-a company is ok as long as it comes from heart and is honest....atb
Pecten: "Casper you kinda ruined it with 'we have our shareholders to look after' Went from being amusing to patently ridiculous......."
In fairness to Casper, AP probably would say that to a judge, though :-)
Casper you kinda ruined it with 'we have our shareholders to look after'
Went from being amusing to patently ridiculous.......
If Atlas have forward sold they won't want to let it get to court proceedings.
Except...the judge lol if there is one,won't say 'my take on it is'.......if there's no confirmation of monies arriving until 16th then that's when money arrived once again Vast failure
JUDGE..."proceed"
VAST...."your honour we payed via swift on 13th of may 2022"
ATLAS..."we did not receive monies until after conversion note on 16th of may 2022"
JUDGE..."when did you ( ATLAS ) forward sell your shares"
ATLAS ..."towards end of last wk"
JUDGE..."NAUGHTY NAUGHTY ( Atlas )....why sell something which you didn't have/own.....can i say sell a HOUSE before i buy it"
ATLAS..."its normal practise on AIM your honour...its easy money for the likes of us"..
JUDGE..."well my take is ...u should have not sold shares which you did not own outright...if expect to get away with it....then ..you have to expect delay of 3 days in swift payment"...
ATLAS...."but we will be shafted"
VAST..."can we go now your honour, we have our shareholders to look after, operations are ongoing and lots NEWSFLOW expected soon"
"2. Why ATLAS making so much fuss if they hadn't.........yjey have already rinsed so much of vast.....could have easily walked away...with high heads..."
$800, 000 with of shares at 0.27, opening the door to another fat profit that's why.
Not saying I agree with it, but the motivation is obvious
Casper - thanks for clarifying that it is an assumption, rather than a statement of fact!!
I could equally assume that ATLAS have a legal right and have not forward sold. Therefore, there is a possibility that ATLAS could pull the SP down to the lowest level possible and screw AP over. In this assumption, VAST leadership will look like stupid and the recent people who took part in placings at 0.7p won't be happy anymore.. All of this are just assumptions, based on 1 scenario.
fantasy read post after that...
"if anything FCA will be suing ATLAS...if they cant settle........ATLAS will have to buy 241M shares and settle thats if they have already sold...HIGH CHANCE they have.."....
The reason why i am adamant and think they have sold....is 2 fold....
1. we saw 2 trades go through.....107M+121+...few days back.....its my take ( just mmy opinion ) these were ATLAS FWD SELLS...
2. Why ATLAS making so much fuss if they hadn't.........yjey have already rinsed so much of vast.....could have easily walked away...with high heads...
no other issue is......not counting today and yesterday.....there were over 1BILLION shares traded in 2 days prior......we only have 600M shares in issue......do the maths...it just doesnt add up.....if 1BILLION shares exchanged fairly and equally on open market....supply would have been short....and we would have ROCKETED......mm's and ATLAS imo have been at it....
These are my assumptions only....i can be wrong
Seems Atlas are a bunch of crooks. Surely Vast told them they were paying them off and shouldn’t there then be agreement on what happens. Even if there was it seems Atlas done the conversion on fact not received the money. They may be correct legally but what a shoddy was to work. Given they also reneged on verbally saying no more conversions wouldn’t Vast have made sure everything was watertight. Very poor and what a corrupt area AIM is.
Fantasy he knows because he said so? LOL
Casper - how do you know for 100% that ATLAS and forward sold 241M shares? Your statement of fact is incorrect. Are you speculating???
"Well one thing for sure...ATLAS has messed up.....they FWD SOLD 241M shares...thinking they will be able to convert....what now...
Either they get 241M shares and settle....and we BANK $800K..
or
SHORT SQEEZE
AIM at its best"
something fishy with this tbh
When people cotton on that a short squeeze is just around the corner.......
>>>> ££££
if anything FCA will be suing ATLAS...if they cant settle........ATLAS will have to buy 241M shares and settle thats if they have already sold...HIGH CHANCE they have..FCA wont give a MONKEY if ATLAS ends up paying 5p 10p 20p+.....lets wait and see how this plays out......
Have ATLAS sued VAST yet as seems ball is now in their court.
Well one thing for sure...ATLAS has messed up.....they FWD SOLD 241M shares...thinking they will be able to convert....what now...
Either they get 241M shares and settle....and we BANK $800K..
or
SHORT SQEEZE
AIM at its best