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these SP predictions are based on what exactly?

I know I take some stick with all the "on one hand, and then on the other" type posts but thats because it can't be predicted, only odds can be assigned to the two outcomes (up or down).

Hurst, when saying "Making new year high tomorrow." does not leave any wiggle room for that not happening. Do you even care if you are wrong?

just for you doggy... Unfortunately I have no idea what the SP will be by Christmas.....

But to get to 500p per share its got to get above 142p. Its a big deal. That number over the last 3 years has proved for whatever reason to be a sticking point. Gets past that then 201p is the next big deal. and that too has proved to be historically significant.

Clear that one then its up to the ATH.

What will likely dictate the 500p by Christmas is how dramatically these targets are taken out.

If for instance good news comes through and the shares double straight away to around 250p-280p, then yes game on for 500p (i guess , I have no idea why 500p is a significant number other than it being a round figure).

If its a bit slower and bit of a slog of ups and downs to get to say, the ATH, then it's likely going to be a more gradual push up.

What could or would give the stock SP impetus is surprise news, Maybe from a new licensing deal, or big order from LD, or big milestone payment etc. And as we are all aware that could happen at any time, but we have to realise that is totally unforecastable for us outside the company.

Personally I almost can't wait (but will), as this has to be the most frustrating stock I have ever had the fortune to come across. Its lack of news but heavy on rumour has allowed a number of very successful trades for me to see which has kept me in but now the clock does seem to be approaching midnight.

Fingers crossed... 500p by Christmas ;0))

Tout, when both sides agree a price the deal is done. If they can't agree, no deal is done.

What i thought was a blindingly obvious statement, was simply that buyers try to force the price down, and sellers try to force the price up.

Porters.... " It goes without saying that buyers always prefer to pay less for the same value...."

"Buyers increase competition within an industry by forcing down prices, bargaining for improved quality or more services, and playing competitors against one another."

I just googled do buyers force the price down and this is the top of the page

Supply isn't constant.

yes tim, otherwise buyers would be paying 150 or 375p or any price you want to invent, would they not?

or... perhaps they try to buy at the lowest price they can. Its up to seller so refuse to deal and then they just might force the SP up.

We have been through this and I will accept some sort of conversation on this if you admit that when you want to buy something you don't go onto the internet to see if you can get the same thing but at a lower price.

are we still in the Dip bel?

Just asking as its difficult to know where the dip ends just so i know when I can expect you to add BUYTHEMIDDLEGROUND to your posts

Furry, no one asks or forces you to buy shares. If you don't like the mechanics of buying and selling and believe it to be crooked then don't do it.

(Its just you seem very het up about what reads as though you think something untoward is going on.)

Will you feel this way when/if the SP rockets? Will it be a fair market then?

bel, presumably times up and the SP on HL has not moved at all let alone not made your 10% gain.

I understand it was your opinion but may I ask what your opinion was based on?

Thanks

I wonder if some here have?

AVCT has and I am sure will continue to, take its own sweet time to do its thing.

Given the outpourings of yesterday I am wondering if this seemingly never ending shoot up in the SP to fall all the way back is starting to psychologically unhinge some here (Reading back this morning on yesterday, I've never seen this BB degenerate down into such silly, childish lows as that.)

If you are over committed then this lack of SP progress can become very wearing and scary. The what-if's of a poor outcome start to outweigh the what-ifs of success.

If this does ring any bells with anyone, then maybe take some sort of action to remedy it before its too late.

Greed and fear... the terrible twins. These emotions are very powerful and often people don't know what they are playing with when they let them have control. We think and delude ourselves that we are rational human beings, but that's the veneer,

We react much more forcefully and directly to emotional stimuli as this BB is a living example of.

"if you think this is anything but games being played you are a fool !"............as opposed to ......

"Anybody who sold even one share on this ridiculous drop needs to give up investing"

oh good grief.... Just today you could have sold at 117p and buy back in now at 109p or sold at 125p on Monday.....

So anywhere between 5% return in 1 day or 15% in 1 week.

But I guess it depends on your definition of "investing"

always potential for a bit of fomo on a drill at the weekend as there are two full days of further drilling taking place before any update would be needed. Particularly when it has gone on this long....

good grief ripley ,you really are the absolute stereotype of a chippy scouser.

what a ramble...

seriously get a job....any sort of job.... get out and about....

Again CJ you completely misread my post.
"you made an assumption yourself that the SP wont rise so your assumption was incorrect as could Mr R be."

I did not.

I simply stated that Riply was ignoring other plausible scenarios that could justify why the SP was falling under rational thoughts and decision making.

The thrust of his post was that the data WILL be good and therefore the SP WILL rise and further anyone selling now is making a mistake.

I was simply highlighting that the broad assumption is based on an outcome that may not happen and that also, even so, it is still a reasonable strategy to bank profit with a view to re-entering this stock when there is less risk attached to it.

We are all here on balance that we believe the data will be good, but its not a given unfortunately as if it was, the SP would be far higher than it is now.

Some would say we are gambling on an outcome yet to be officially confirmed in front of what we expect/hope will occur.

Just so this not too pedantic. Do you think there COULD be a 5th DE? What do you think the SP would be if that was announced?

It does mean it will but its a possibility..... you pays yer money.....

ah......

"There’s no chance it won’t move vastly north on positive data"

well that a bit different, the SP will rise if the data is good.... you heard it there first.

So, do you wait for the news or do you buy in front of the results?
Do you sell now to remove the risk of a capital depreciation if the news was disappointing but with a view to buy back in at a higher but less risk(y) price if the results are good?

It takes all sorts and that's what creates a market.

CJ point out in my post where I said Ripley's assumption was wrong?

I pointed out there were alternative scenario's to counter his assumptive conclusion "but as a trading strategy, selling the excess and holding the rest when done en masse actually makes no sense at all."

Sorry everyone, I was hopeful that ripley claiming he had filtered me, would slow him down.

Ripley is making a number of assumptions. The major one being that the SP will rise.

There is no guarantee that the price will rise. If based on past experience, if a 5th DE is announced then i would expect a muted response (based on DE4) within the SP.

Another assumption is that people who are selling now want to buy back in later. That may not be the case.

Even if some sells now are with the intention of buying back later it could well be, they want to bank whatever profit they have made now, and then even if it is 150p or more, will go into a new trade at this higher price perhaps thinking there is less risk going forward with a more likely result of a much higher SP.

There are many alternative scenarios whereby the current actions are logical and well thought through. (There will also be some who have made an error being overly emotionally driven.)