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Don, quite often they give a weeks notice so I don't see any big deal here particularly as they have said it will happen around the same time as last year.

The Sp looks like the market is not expecting new news (ie no RNS) on or for SD.

The shares climbed to 155p on the day of the rns with a slight increase to 161p the following day, so pretty much where we are now.

If it turns out there is no RNS prior to SD I am hoping for more info on the 5th DE

sounds bullish to me

LWHL, I think charts (TA) has limited use as they are, at their best, short term indicators. If you trade frequently then I find them very helpful as it helps me time my entry and exit in an attempt to maximise profit.

Its a very disciplined, mechanical approach. At its best it removes the emotion from trading, (but that relies on the "trader" having sufficient control over their emotions of Fear & Greed) It also removes the link or relationship between the SP and the company due to its short term nature.

Due to the mechanical nature of the system the individual has to discover or find a method that works consistently enough to return overall profits, given that not every trade will be successful. And that is the only reason I don't use MDA's for me, its not that they don't "work", just that they did not work consistently enough for me to profit from them, but its very much each to their own.

Anyway, 16.6p will be a good sign for me, and may induce new buyers to get on board. Who knows! ATB

LWHL,

I don't use DMA's myself but I posted this recently about Harl (not here)

"Chart wise the new support is 14.12-14.38. A break and close above 15.05p would be the first step to suggest the down trend is broken with stronger confirmation at a close above 16.6p"

So the first part is in and maybe today the confirmation close might also arrive, but in any event its always an incremental movement in TA.

Hi Gusto, I don't think slow and steady will be the outcome on a stock in this phase of its potential growth story.

The mkt cap is far too low if they are going to be successful. The more the chances of that out come happening so more will want to get in on the ground floor.

This will cause days (hopefully) of big gains and that will be followed by swings down as quick profits are taken.

Its just going to be the nature of the beast for a while I think.

Touk, HL may show the arge spread but when you buy/sell its normally within 1-2p rather than what they post.

If there is a large spread it normally means the MM's have little or no stock and need a big margin to protect themselves to execute the trade. (And at the same time deter buyers and sellers.)

maybe to both ends Neut?

One for fund managers to buy and/or recommend the stock to clients for capital gain now, and at the same time with a shareholding, maybe get dibs on discounted future offers/placings?

Thing is we don't know what AVCT's goal here is in the SD re the invitee's

If it just an update as to what AVCT are doing and where they are in the trial then maybe/probably no RNS is needed and it will be much more general.

If it is to be worthy of an RNS first, then they have little opportunity to assess the info and whether to buy or not. Certainly if its better news than Jan, then PI's will be hoisting up the SP and the fund managers might be a bit peeved at missing out?

Also if there is abetter RNS to be released why have the SD at all. The world will be knocking at AVCT's door for more info in which case they can control the story/PR etc.

My guess is the SD will not tell the already informed ie this BB for example), much more and this is likely to be aimed at the uninitiated and therefore no RNS.

(If there was to be a revelation of soon-to-be- Nasdaq listing that surely would have been put in place already behind the scenes.)

Anyway, we will know soon enough, one way or the other.

Morning ES,

Do you think, if an RNs is to be released, that it will be left to the day or do you think it could come tomorrow or even wed, to allow some reasonable internal analysis from the SD participants prior to the presentation?

(My thinking is it should be tomorrow/Wed for that reason, if it is coming at all, and at the moment fwiw, I have a 50/50 whether or not there will be RNS.)

Morning CI,

I posted this on the Harl BB on the 16th at 10:42 when the first RNS was released.

"The RNS today is good without being fantastic but I would think that H&W are going to RNS anything they can to convince shareholders the only way from here is up and to try and change the mood music surrounding the SP.
(fwiw), Its always hard to say but I think we are close to the lows now and am building up a position around these prices"

Its always hard to know where to get in and ultimately its usually the lower the price the bigger the risk.

My reasoning is the Govt would not have likely given them the order if they thought they were going to go bust. Almost to the point that this stops them going bust and therefore that was partly/always the Govt 's plan.

So for me (and this may be misplaced reasoning), if they are not going bust then this removes a large risk attached to the company which in turn means the company, valued at just £25m is crazy.

Chart wise the new is support is 14.12-14.38. A break and close above 15.05p would be the first step to suggest the down trend is broken with stronger confirmation at a close above 16.6p

(just my opinion DYOR etc)

Standon, I am fine with these threads, its just that so often the threads get derailed due to some posters deciding that others knowledge is either wrong or laughably wrong and then go all superior on them and then away we go.

This was a particularly specialist thread (and Like I say perfectly fine), but because it did not suit a poster it all has to get a bit touchy.

All i am saying is if there was tolerance to all different views and less of the attempt at pointless point scoring with what some mistakenly think are witty or clever put downs (or just get off on being able to be rude with no comeback), this BB would be great.

The funny thing is I think everyone would agree, and yet at the same time. it won't change. Go figure.

Interesting to you and a few others BV, but I imagine the majority of the BB have little or no understanding of what is being discussed.

Also perhaps as neither of you know actually whats going on it is as pointless as any other thread.

The bluntness in my reply is only to highlight that the BB is for all, not just a select few that have a narrow interest in a particular area. So while I am as happy as Larry for these threads to run their course and absolutely are relevant here, it does not mean just because you don't like where they go that means they should not.

This BB (imo) would run a lot easier if there was more on tolerance on all sides. Because as everyone knows, the name calling is where the real drivel starts.

My choice would be to know the 6 numbers for the lottery for next week....

Was it on purpose that no negative outcome was given as a choice?

I ask because the question is so loaded as to be non-sencesical.

Its saying do you want to make a ton on money in the next few months or double that in 2years.The presumption is you can't loose.... that any other lesser outcome is not available.

I don't know... its hard here.... I can only imagine most here are already very wealthy because you never even entertain the thought of things not going to plan in the future, and therefore this confidence must be based on past experience.

I know I am not the world's smartest investor as I prove to myself reasonably regularly but I can't work out if this collective self confidence means I am in the midst of the most experienced investors in the market, or the least.

and while we are on pointless personal barbs.

Why are you so anxious to keep telling everyone I have in your opinion, zero credibility? You think what I say has merit and you you have to remind them that It doesn't? You don't think the reader can work that out for themselves?

You think cherry picking some of my trades enforces your point but by being so partial it completely undermines your opinion. It shows a one sided view, But why? what are you so worried about. And if you were not concerned why do keep posting this stuff about me?

As you say let people do what they want, make up their own minds. They don't need you or the other uber rampers to keep telling them there is only one outcome.

Ripley where did I say anybody should sell?

Why do you continually make up stuff and lie about what I say? Either you don't read what I say or you have such a deep loathing of my views that your mind invents this stuff to justify a false view of what I actually say.

By the way not for nothing has anyone here every put too much into a company that did not deliver? How did that feel?

Would you want others to have that experience?

also I am not sure why you think it necessary to so often tell me what I should and shouldn't post and the BB generally. Who do you think you are? I don't have a right to a view and others can't post their reaction?

Based on you know whats going to happen therefore go all in:

I refer back to LFT only because its the only reference to date we have that is particular to AVCT

If you were one of the many here that did not see the failure coming after a lot of research then, why not?

I will dare to put words into some mouths that I think are reasonable.

You would have expected great returns based on all the research at and during the time about the virus from many, many different sources and the market for it. Now, given it was novel you would have taken to some degree or another the face value of reports. You then had the detailed AVCT research to use as well, with all the RNS's and the interviews that AS provided. And all of that was over some period of time, it was not or needed to be, a knee jerk, quick reaction. There was time for considered, careful analysis and reflection.

After all of that it turned out to be a dud. But not only a dud, the spins off were too prior to the LFT being withdrawn, (Bams etc)

This is not a critique of the LFT, I am simply highlighting that this belief that you "know" what the out come is from experience of AVCT on new, ground breaking science seems misplaced to me based on actual experience of both the company and the statements the company made during the covid crisis. (I would remind you also, that AS said he believed the LFT was the best test in the world after and during various stages of development of that test, and could see a multi billion £ market for it at least 2-5 years ahead.)

I am not arguing (and never actually ever have done), that this trial is not working. I only expressed yesterday a reservation on the risk appetite to going all-in on a stock at this stage of it development.

Obviously you can do whatever you like with your money. Its not for me to say and why would it be, so apologies if that came across, it was not my intention.

I was simply trying to point out that with new technology we have no idea really how it works or what the problems are it has to overcome from a technical pov. Nor can we refer and compare it to anything else that is out there (AS is very good at giving simplified explanations which make it seem relatively simple and straight forwrd). We are taking it at this stage on in good faith as before, but at the same time do have the experience of what happened to the LFT.

Again I am not arguing against the potential either of this technology but the very fact that no one has managed to do it yet at least must highlight that this is not an easy thing to do.

Finally when or if the argument is you "know" the outcome: The one thing I think has been a continual gripe from share holders here is how poor the coms have been from avct over the years.

so how can you "know" what's going on when you admit that the communication from the company leaves a lot to be desired? The implication is there are gaps in your knowledge of the company that the company does not

ok, fair enough.

I was working on the template the we are know-nothing investors.

Knock yourself out.

Not rampy doc, just shows what greed can do to rational thought and judgement.

You can't entertain the actual reality that this could fail. So you have to keep convincing yourself it can't.

At the end of it what do these BB's actually tell you?

For every genuine informed poster there will be another equally good, equally genuine one saying that they disagree. look at the discussions on how much dox is being absorbed by the tumor for instance.

The things is, this is cutting edge tech and no one here knows really anything in terms of predicting how this works.

what does 30 years in the industry apply when it is stuff they have never seen?

Sure they can tell you about the mechanics of a trial and all the rest of it but you will be like the rest of us on SD waiting for an actual update that we can relate to.

To be so wedged up is your decision but it is the golden rule of investing never to do.

I hope for you, genuinely, you get away with it but I would not boast about it as though thats the way to do it.

And good for you if you can deal with the pressure but reading your posts I don't think you are.

Its reckless beyond measure an no one reading your post should ever follow that path.

Of course thats just my opinion, (and every other successful investor incl WB by the way, seeing as he is often quoted. Also he would never have invested in this company at this stage, but then what does he know....)

BV.

I don't think that characterisation helps anyone.

What you described from an INVESTMENT standpoint was risk profile.

Do you risk money now before the results of the very first part of the clinical trial has even completed with no route or timescale to market or even guarantee of success and pay what in HINDSIGHT may be an excellent entry point or do you wait when it is whatever...500p,1000p per share?with minimal or no risk at all?

Realise a 12-15% annual return over a period of years will compound into huge gains.

One all-eggs-in-one-basket failure could be catastrophic for the individual.

The patient and risk averse are not as you say, necesairly Dullards