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Totally agree Pareto. Btw Farage is domiciled in Belgium too.

I don't see the point of defining yourself by your skin pigmentation. It's meaningless.

Btw putting aside the fringe lunatics which all religions have (cf the fundamentalist Christian right in the US), I have a great deal of time for Islam as a religion. The five pillars seem a good blueprint for how to be a good citizen. If you open yourself up to the Other, rather than make life's journey in fear, you'll find that you can always learn and develop. I think Kever might self-combust on reading this post. Disclosure - I am white, heterosexual, working-class background who also beleives that the UK military is dangerously undermanned and that we should seriously re-arm asap and become the key player, in a pan-European defence force. As Churchill envisaged things.

Not surprising that people like Kever rarely mention that Britain had the biggest empire of all the European colonialists. We desperately needed support from our colonies during and after the two world wars. Another inconvenient truth for Kever's ilk is that migration from our former colonies has gone up in recent years because we made it way more difficult to attract and keep vitally important migrant labour from our European neighbours. (Won't mention the B-word though) Another inconvenient fact - the peak of violent crime was 1995. Gun crime averages around 50-70 deaths per year compared to 22000 in the US, for example.

Nicely put Tenbag.

I honestly think most people in the UK could do with sitting down and doing some reading around the history of migration in the UK.

For some reason, the site has got rid of all my capital letters!

i grew up in relative poverty in the ****-end of south london but went to a russell group uni for nothing and qualified for a means-tested full grant to cover my living costs for my entire time there. my pgce year to qualify as a teacher was also paid for. i'm sure this infuriates many people now but there was a genuine commitment to social mobility back then which recognised education as an investment in a person's, and a country's, future.

Can we not mention Boris Johnson again though. The mere thought of that lying, venal, psychopathic narcissist puts my blood pressure through the roof and engenders an overwhelming urge to kick something. The dog is looking nervous.

Btw I would also argue that the best years in my lifetime in the UK were 1997-2008.

I agree, Investor New Labour under Blair did not put in place the reforms necessary to regulate the housing market. Massive mistake. However, at least interest rates were at all-time lows back then. Then along came Liz truss! We have now created a housing system where it is nigh on impossible to buy unless you are helped by the bank of Mum and dad, especially in the big Cities. This is the root of so many social ills. If you work in teaching, social care, nursing, public admin, how on earth do you ever get to the point of being able to secure a mortgage of £300k plus? The basic paradox that so many people on the right don't get is that more good regulation creates more freedom for more people. The right have brainwashed the populace to believe the opposite. Anyway, back to Matd, I hope this turns around soon as I'm now on a £800 paper loss. That's a lot for me.

Don't get me wrong Tenbag, I love so many things about my country but it's such a brutal and uncaring society we are building.

I actually agree with most of that Stas, although given that Labour (and a centre-left New Labour at that), have only been in power for 13 of the last 45 years in the UK, I do think it's a bit disingenuous to start laying the ills of the UK at the feet of a party that has only been in power for er, three months. My fear is that Starmer is too middle-of-the-road to not put in place the radical changes that broken Britain needs.

Tbh Investor I think we should be much more concerned about the fact that a banker can make more in a single year bonus than I did working as a state school teacher in a thirty year career. Or people working in care homes with the most vulnerable people are being paid minimum wage with minimal workers' rights. Or the 'gig' economy is often really a form of modern slavery. Or the fact that under the Tories Doctors, the most middle-class Tory-voting profession after the law, went on a long strike for the first time ever. Also, if you live in London 70K will not actually get you a big enough mortgage to find a flat to live in as the property market has been left completely unregulated. But yeah, let's worry about working people getting a living wage instead.

I'm not bothered about any changes to IHT. I inherited nowt and I've got no kids but I do think IHT allowances are way too generous. The 40billion black hole from the Tories would be plugged much quicker. The benefits of being born to rich parents should be much more limited. (Just keep the tax free status for shares ISA's.)

Yeah, like the Tory governments of the last 32 out of 45 years in the UK were not completely controlled by shady donors and dodgy money to push through legislation which destroyed civic life in the UK. The 'every man for himself' ideology, and the 'there is no such thing as society' (Thatcher) attitude, has broken Britain. Like it or not, unfettered capitalism has to be reined in as it just destroys everything in its path, including peoples' lives. Don't forget average life expectancy fell over the last decade and male suicide went through the roof. Let those things sink in.

Yup, another manipulated spike by the rampers to get their regualr 5% gain. It'll drift down now...until the next time..nothing to invest in here although Espen assures us that Chevron is so excited about the drone pictures that they want in. hahahahaha

I genuinely hope you're right Iamrich. Some people really got spiked by the rampers so I hope this can get back over the .2 mark for their sakes. Espen has a lot to answer for.

Well at least you are being honest about your flip-flopping-flippin'-floppin' now Stas. I'm guessing you've flucking flopped today, whereas you flippin' flipped last week when you were all over this like cheap suit. Before last week, looking at your posting then, I'm pretty sure you were flippin' flopped and no mistake. 'S clear now

The trouble is Stas, when you flipped from ultra-bearish to ultra-bullish overnight, (not the other way around btw), you then started attacking those posters who were saying exactly the same things as you were saying when you were on their side of the 'binary' as you put it. We can all change our minds but you also made diametrically opposed claims about the company depending on what side of the fence you were sitting. Many people would call that dishonest, position posting at its worst. Re COPl, I believe we have been instructed not to air information in relation to the ongoing legal undertaking, so I will refrain from doing so. As should you. And don't use anger and outrage to deflect from your shady behaviour. Quite unpleasant.