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Anyone thinking of taking over MOBICO will not be paying 60p, and no one will sell the business for 60p a share ....so..the current SP is of insignificant use in any takeover scenario
The shareholders will not sell cheap in 2024 if they see recovery in 2025 and beyond
an unsolicited cheap takeover bid may happen...but it is unlikely to make it up to the Board room for discussion IMO
Brembo247
You sound like a newbie ....maybe not so much experience on the workings of the stock market...
The BOD manage the business and the markets decide the trading of the share price
I personally wouldn't go down any path regarding any kind of "collusion"
The share price is low because for many there is no current reason to invest their clients money, with better dividends and safer options elsewhere ....no dividend and a stretched balance sheet isn't currently tempting more many Fund managers who are looking for yield to protect against inflation
Tony
A buffet in Buxton.... you have gone down market ...or maybe you were never actually up market
Personally I always book a suite with a terrace, usually by the ocean... .... eating a buffet in Buxton ... you must have fallen on hard times old boy ....
HV
The results are pretty much old hat ....what matters most...IMO.... is the year ahead ...and how things are shaping up here and now ... I think 2024 like many other businesses still has a feeling of uncertainty and difficult to predict guidance .... but ..many of the issues of 2023 have progressed considerably ....
The market is almost trading on external issues like geo-politics, state of the economy, war .... and it is these things that any BOD is having to grapple with ...
I am not as negative about the BOD as many here .... it has been a difficult period and no one really knows what goes on in the background .... a lot of challenges and stakeholders to contend with , and a world that is becoming veru unpredictable and uncertain by the day ...
I dont see selling US Bus as a fire sale .... ..anyone buying will see it as a long term purchase and would be acquiring a lot of infrastructure with a large part of the revenue being on contract....
I think there would be a number of parties interested in such a business ...... and I dont see a fire sale situation, myself
Seemed inevitable that the buyers would come back in...... a few traders scrambling to re-buy I suspect
I am not selling anything ..because the reasons to buy PM are still in place .... IMO
9th April 2024 - " unchanged sales guidance of £23m"
17th April 2024 - " FY 2024 sales range of £17.5m to £22m"
they are such amateurs
You can see similar with EasyJet ....loads of cash swaps done through Bank Of America/Merrill Lynch
https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/EZJ/holdings-in-company-phcf1kb9tz07oo2.html
" Sounds like Shorting then. P.c."
well it is a different form of trying to benefit/have exposure to a share , through a contract, whilst not having to actually buy them .... shorting, CFDs, Options , cash swaps etc
"..they have 0.4% of the shares "
Oh, apologies, I missed point 11right towards the bottom of the page... ...which says these shares are a result of borrowing them ...so they have borrowed them, not bought them...by the looks of things
Nothing is going to happen until they show the Results and show that the business is on the mend , in terms of margins and bottom line earnings
No one is interested right now, in a leveraged balance sheet and no dividend ...better and safer yields elsewhere
It is up to the BOD to deliver ...not their fault the late change to the German situation has caused the latest Results delay
Many fund managers will pay 80p, 90p, whatever ...once a more secure situation is delivered.... but not until ...IMO
" could it be that someone has put up their BT shares as security with them for a cash loan."
no
It is just a contract between Morgan Stanley who does not have the shares, with someone who does have the shares ...such as an Institutional Investor
Both sides seek to gain from the contract ...often the II will seek to hedge their Long position without having to sell shares or lose Voting Rights
Morgan Stanley will seek to have exposure to the shares, say through the performance of the shares, without having to buy them
Completely recovered the Q1 sell off and more...
3 month sell off, recovered in less than 3 weeks ...
" Wish TR1s were clearer."
They become clearer, once you start to understand them .... just watch out for Options, Cash Swaps, etc ...that are not ownership of shares, at that point ....and Investment banks like JPM and Morgan Stanley etc ..use them A LOT
" They previously had 6.6% of available shares, now increased the 7.09%."
No.... they have 0.4% of the shares ( which has increased since the last notification)
....the rest are Compound Options and other Derivatives such as cash equity swaps gives them exposure to the shares without actually having to own them
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/compoundoption.asp
https://www.vintti.com/blog/what-is-an-equity-swap/
KevRow
The Analyst Call is worth reading in full.....
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4667556-vodafone-group-public-limited-company-vod-q3-2024-trading-update-call-transcript
LWHL
The daft thing is.... pensioners are lending their Govt money, so that the said Govt can then pay them their pension, ... and on top the Govt has to pay them a 4-5% coupon to do so...
It is all crazy really
LWHL
I had a couple of Americans over for dinner last night...and we were chatting about things .....and they said...they were really concerned that the US Govt could close down different areas ... simply because of the constant need to ask Congress for more money ...they said it was really worrying ...crazy they said ..
LWHL
Inflation and Treasury yields and Dollar strengths ...suggest that PM shouldnt be going as high as they are .....BUT ..the fact that they have ...suggests to me ..and others....there is another big worry out there ...and that worry is what is supporting the PM prices ..
The market seems concerned on the US borrowing and Budget deficit levels with big concerns that it just cannot go on ... debt repayment levels are going up,up,up and tax receipts are just not keeping pace with the spending ....
It is like they are borrowing $3 to get $1 of growth
The market as yet does not see the reasons why they are buying PM to have changed ...hence little sell off as yet
FRES was obviously oversold much below 480p so the actual Bull increase here is relatively small at this stage - IMO
" What is "management" trying to achieve? "
to me..it suggests that a leak was likely to happen and as such the BOD needed to update the state of play , to prevent any leak rumours etc
Secondly..they have almost made it clear that discussions are moving towards a D4E and possible further investment from new investors /existing key shareholders that could involve further equity issue
The sale of assets ...suggests that , that issue, will not in itself provide enough cash to solve much of the debt issue
The RNS makes it clear that the whole process is long, difficult and full of challenges...hence the timescale needed to get to any kind of amicable solution ..and involves coming to agreement with a number of different stakeholders ...