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And yet it's still more than holding its own, despite this apparent increase in stock on loan!

Quoting from an earlier post today, imagine how the SP would react if "[there were to be] (1) good news on disposals, (2) shorts [were to] close or (3) a bid emerges (e.g. Serco who are shopping around for bargains)"

"still when some also think an after hours ut is a late buy"

What - who thinks an (presumably you meant the definite article) uncrossing trade is a late buy?!

Almost 10% up now on the bid!

"How do you know shares are up again - today I mean?"

I actually meant "How do you know shorts are up again - today I mean?" last time, of course!

How do you know shares are up again - today I mean? The slight increase in Kier stock on loan reported relates to yesterday, and a day can be a very long time for markets. Based on the SP performance today, I'd guess that if anything the amount being shorted has - erm - decreased.

Much more Capita than Carillion!

No it's not - it's less than half the existing debt facility and profits are now predicted to soar!

In just about every way other than that, and those who rely on the dividend are already holding!

Well not all good, but the good significantly outweighs the bad in my very honest opinion. In short (short being the operative word!), this is - again - NOT a Carlillion (those who are long can breathe again!) and now seems massively oversold from the viewpoint of the mid- to long-term...

Not in the scheme of things, it's not even half Kier's debt facility - put a band aid on it!

Indeed it is! OK - debt going to be reported as 7% higher than previously thought, but it won't mature for years. In any event,

"The Board considers that the revised strategy outlined above, together with the related actions which are now underway, will result in a significant reduction in the Group's net debt during FY2020.".

"so the business is viable if it is given a chance"

Of course it is. Kier and NW are not one and the same, nor is it Carillion, and Fri was probably little more than a tour de force in scaremongering to drive down the SP for (any one of) two reasons that really should be obvious. This is not AIM!

I really don't reckon so - the SP's climbing back already...

But WHEN - pray tell - were such glad tidings 'revealed' to you, a diddle-a-poppum...?

Not Kier - y'see, it be da voodoo! Let's be hardy...!

There could well be a mutherin' of kinky, ninja fabbery to be had with this 'un, but not - methinks - before it's fallen a fair bit further!

"we should be valued 10 times more then our current value"

That would indeed be Talisker-time ("over the sea to Skye...")!

Sorry - just testing (blasted keyboard)!

...and its idiosyncrasies, but this wouldn't fit! I mean, ACP releases news as great as that of last Wednesday and it's no longer stuck in the DRC yet the SP is still only about half of what it was or less a couple of years or so ago before it even acquired a graphite play. Seems even the bottom feeders are still in hibernation...!

Hello - how's your phone?! Just been checking out 0OR4 - that could be one sexy stock!

Not sure what happened here but the post in question was left on a different board - then seemed to have disappeared by the wee small hours, prompting my later response on what seemed to be the same board -but is now back. San Francisco seems a far cry from the DRC!