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The market has this one wrong. Mark my words. I truly believe 10-20 bags are possible on good news, and that news may land any day now. We pivoted a few years back to something which looks EXTREMELY promising IMHO if the 131kW is confirmed. Here are some quotes from recently RNS's:
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In the period under review our engineering team have been concluding the stage two build and testing and a number of tests have been conducted under varying scenarios, each for a duration of approximately one hour, with consistent performance with peak output reaching 97kw.
Stage three build and testing should be complete by the 2nd Quarter 2023, where the unit is targeted to achieve its intended peak performance of 131kW.
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John Gunn, Chairman, commented: "The board of Inspirit has no doubt that the technology the Company has developed could have a significant impact on applications within the automotive industry where manufacturers seek to enhance performance from the recovery and electrification of waste heat. The commercial potential would seem boundless and Inspirit is extremely optimistic about the commercial prospects for the business. To the best of our understanding, we remain unique in this space at a time where manufactures of combustion engines are seeking to create more efficient engines for commercial vehicles.
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It's interesting we've had no news on the 6 month loan repayment! I suppose "which will be repayable within 6 months" was a little ambiguous in hindsight, perhaps it's within 6 months of the end of the 12 months term, in which case we've got another year until we have to settle this :-). Meanwhile, an update on the final phase of our Waste Heat Recovery application is now surely imminent? Will it be accompanied by partnership news to take it forward? That's the $$$ question. Oh, and I'd like some independent third-party validation if it's not too much trouble. Under NDA is fine. ;-)
Just to note we appear to have lost the 500m warrants @0.075p millstone this week which almost certainly acted as a drag on the SP in June last year on great news with memories of the CLN... The warrant holders still hold 190m obtained @0.05p which acted as a break on the SP in November 2021 on news as they sold into it, and we have smaller resistance from the short term debt facility, but peanuts in comparison which great news should smash through.
Anyway - interesting times, I'm personally quite surprised news didn't come before the warrants expired, but if a deal hasn't concluded, it hasn't concluded, and I think that's what it might take to 10x-20x bag us, which the spectre of forward selling warrants certainly wouldn't have helped with!
Ob
WHR is where it is at, mCHP is dead for now - though maybe we'll focus on it should we pull this off and can fund it to production ourselves? It's called pivoting to our strengths, and if our little 'ol Stirling technology has been supercharged to produce 131kW of useful power, that's one hell of a strength! Surely a mater of days to find out. We must be getting some serious torque out of it, along with bumping up the RPM perhaps? Decades in the making - time to blow the SP out of the water JG :-)))
Don't be fooled by all the waffle on here. News on whether we have achieved the target peak performance 131kW, and formed a partnership with a large major automotive group to take the technology forward is now imminent. Nicely loaded here. ;-)
"This is a good short-term facility providing near-term funding while the engineering team work on the final phase of our Waste Heat Recovery application on which the Board will provide further updates in due course"
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I've looked everywhere - can't find it, which means news must be imminent, hopefully accompanied by the long awaited partnership deal(s)! ;-)
Where is it?
@ian - we pivoted to WHR a few years back. Good news and we could see a crazy rise here. Most clearly think we won't deliver good news next week otherwise we'd be much much higher...
Paul Booker, Design and Development Director, commented:
"This is truly ground breaking technology and the application can be applied to marine, waste heat recycling from energy generation, refrigerated transport that uses diesel engines and many more applications."
Circa £1m market cap says to me the market doesn't believe or understand what we've achieved. 131kW is a remarkable achievement if confirmed in the coming weeks. Especially if useful mechanical or electric power - though even if thermal this is pretty decent... The heat energy density and resultant torque will be orders of magnitude greater than the previous incarnation from a puny boiler, compared to these engines!
Time to spill the beans on how we've achieved this? Though personally, I'd like to see third party confirmation in the form of a trial with a (named) major automotive group, than reveal any commercially sensitive know-how at this stage.
Hope there aren't too many regrets in the coming weeks - me included, I could be wrong! lol. DYOR
Roll up, roll up!
I used to like this thread. Get yourself 3% of a company that is practically invisible, never mind under the radar for less than £40k, which if we multi-bag (potentially a 10x IMHO) in the coming weeks on news of entering a trial phase with a "major automotive group", which we appear to now be in a position of neither confirming or denying may or may not be Volvo Marine, will feel like an absolute bargain! :-)))
For the avoidance of doubt, the next news might be absolutely terrible - I really have no idea, or insider information, but given we need to start paying back our short-term loan in the next month, and the options expire at the beginning of June, I'm expecting something decent to get this show well and truly finally on the road to riches - as I'm sure all those who have funded to this point are too! ;-)
Ob
Stage 1 build with the Stirling Engine clearly visible!
https://www.inspirit-energy.com/2022/06/26/successfull-first-build-phase-of-whr-waste-heat-recovery/
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The pictures below are stage one of the Waste Heat Recovery (WHR) System, which is a major component in the application for the Volvo Marine engine and other heat recovery applications the Company has been working on whereby waste heat exhaust is recycled and converted to energy.
https://www.inspirit-energy.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/WHR-System-1-1-1536x1148.jpg
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Looking forward to seeing stage 2 and 3, hopefully in the next week or two. :-)))
Also, the website was updated recently - hopefully in preparation for the big news!
"It is anticipated that the unit could produce up to a 30% performance enhancement on certain commercial engines, consequently reducing CO2 emissions." - feed all the 131kW of WHR MECHANICAL energy into the drive and you get this sort of performance enhancement when flooring the engine - likely significantly less at cruise speed, but most likely double figure % performance enhancements. I really don't think the market quite understands what we have here ;-) News in the next 2 weeks. Shall I start a countdown? lol.
Got to be odds on we hear something from this in the next few weeks... ;-)
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Discussions are currently ongoing with both a major automotive group and with an alternative combustion manufacturer to potentially partner on exciting future developments relating to the Charger. In addition, the Inspirit team is also exploring opportunities to collaborate with other automotive groups, where the potential exists to achieve the same significant performance enhancements that we have achieved to date with automotive combustions engines.
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Less than 2 weeks to go... ;-)
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Stage three build and testing should be complete by the end of May 2023, where the unit is targeted to achieve its intended peak performance of 131kW."
We know we are using an experimental engine similar in performance to a D13-like Volvo Penta engine that is capable of 2,400rpm. We don't know exactly which model, but this is a likely candidate as any:
https://helmutsmarine.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/D13_1000_Product_Sheet.pdf
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Crankshaft power, @2400rpm 735kW
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In terms of fuel efficiency of ICE engines, we are talking anywhere from 25 to 50%, and lower when the engine isn't at cruise RPM. This page suggests 50% for modern Volvo engines, so I'll go with that for the moment. This means 50% of the waste is in friction (including sound), heat and unburnt gases.
https://www.volvoce.com/global/en/news-and-events/news-and-stories/2018/fuel-use-how-low-can-you-go/
Looking at the fuel consumption graph against rpm, if estimating 1,300rpm to be the optimum cruising speed and is 50% efficient, I'd estimate the max 2,400rpm to be maybe around 35% efficient.
So if there is 735kW of useful mechanical power, this means there is a total of 1,365kW of waste power to collect.
If it all were heat, which it isn't, then the maximum you might expect a Stirling Engine to be able to turn into electric is around 30%, with the theoretical being around 40%. So sure, 131kW from 1,365kW of waste heat at a temperature suitable for our tech is certainly possible.
But it's not going to be 1,365kW of useful heat, it's going to be a fraction of that. And that is where the three stage process comes in.
So we are led to believe the first stage was without the Accelerator, and we were able to extract 34kWe from the waste heat available, perhaps indicating there was around 110kWt of useful waste heat (30% efficiency) of the total 1,365kW, meaning around 1200kW of unburnt gases or low heat ready for the Helix Accelerator and catalytic converter tech to turn into useful heat for the Stirling engine.
We don't really know the details of the Helix Accelerator or the catalytic converter, but it seems to me that's what's going on. By the magic (I've got some ideas on how it might work, but it might as well be magic at this point!) of the Helix Accelerator we managed to near double the useful heat power available to say 220kWt, meaning we could near double the 34kWe to 64kWe. That means there would be circa 1,100kW of partly burnt fuel we are now expecting to be able to be turned into circa 220kWt, from which a further 64We of power can be extracted.
64kWe + 64KWe = 131kWe with rounding errors.
The question is: can you get 220kWt of thermal from 1,100kW of partly burn fuel in the catalytic converter process? From what I can see no-one has asked this question before. Is this the USP?
Ob
All good @MB. Just back to observing for the moment waiting for news, and of course adding when I can! ;-)
Thought I'd repost this as the time is near, or should that be nigh! It's going to interesting either way over the coming weeks. ;-)
Incidentally, I go for long periods without contributing on here as there is pretty much nothing to speculate about between news events - leaving those hell bent on tortuous interference on shares they have no interest in EVER investing in, by their own admission, to fill the void with waffle. The BoD could help with that by giving us much more to go on, but personally, if this is as good as it is looking, we probably want to divulge pretty much the bare minimum we are obliged to shareholders as a public company, especially as our patents ( https://patents.google.com/?assignee=%22Disenco+Limited%22 ) have, or are about to expire. Competition, competition, competition!
Yes. I'm not particularly happy with this either, and the shoddy RNS's that seem self-contradictory at times, but this has 10x (and then some!) written all over if it's as good as our BoD are shouting. I completely get there are just too many unanswered questions for some to consider investing: why no BoD buys, why no interviews, what's the REAL reason it's taking so damn long? Frustrating right? Still worth the gamble IMHO, especially with the new timelines. DYOR.
Incidentally, I go for long periods without contributing on here as there is pretty much nothing to speculate about between news events - leaving those hell bent on tortuous interference on shares they have no interest in EVER investing in, by their own admission, to fill the void with waffle. The BoD could help with that by giving us much more to go on, but personally, if this is as good as it is looking, we probably want to divulge pretty much the bare minimum we are obliged to shareholders as a public company, especially as our patents have, or are about to expire. Competition, competition, competition!
Yes. I'm not particularly happy with this either, and the shoddy RNS's that seem self-contradictory at times, but this has 10x (and then some!) written all over if it's as good as our BoD are shouting. I completely get there are just too many unanswered questions for some to consider investing: why no BoD buys, why no interviews, what's the REAL reason it's taking so damn long? Frustrating right? Still worth the gamble IMHO, especially with the new timelines. DYOR.
Ob.
Definitely worth DYOR on this one! I'm starting to get very excited. lol. Yes I'm a ramper for this share as I've done my own research and can see the possibilities if we haven't been taken for an nice long AIM ride, and yes, I own a very nice chunk. If this is for real then I'm expecting $$$ - and likely only a few months to find out. ;-)
"Stage three build and testing should be complete by the end of May 2023, where the unit is targeted to achieve its intended peak performance of 131kW."
This has really got me scratching my head, wondering if it REALLY is 131kW of ELECTRICAL power.
We know we are using an experimental engine similar in performance to a D13-like Volvo Penta engine that is capable of 2,400rpm. We don't know exactly which model, but this is a likely candidate as any:
https://helmutsmarine.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/D13_1000_Product_Sheet.pdf
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Crankshaft power, @2400rpm 735kW
]===
In terms of fuel efficiency of ICE engines, we are talking anywhere from 25 to 50%, and lower when the engine isn't at cruise RPM. This page suggests 50% for modern Volvo engines, so I'll go with that for the moment. This means 50% of the waste is in friction (including sound), heat and unburnt gases.
https://www.volvoce.com/global/en/news-and-events/news-and-stories/2018/fuel-use-how-low-can-you-go/
Looking at the fuel consumption graph against rpm, if estimating 1,300rpm to be the optimum cruising speed and is 50% efficient, I'd estimate the max 2,400rpm to be maybe around 35% efficient.
So if there is 735kW of useful mechanical power, this means there is a total of 1,365kW of waste power to collect.
If it all were heat, which it isn't, then the maximum you might expect a Stirling Engine to be able to turn into electric is around 30%, with the theoretical being around 40%. So sure, 131kW from 1,365kW of waste heat at a temperature suitable for our tech is certainly possible.
But it's not going to be 1,365kW of useful heat, it's going to be a fraction of that. And that is where the three stage process comes in.
So we are led to believe the first stage was without the Accelerator, and we were able to extract 34kWe from the waste heat available, perhaps indicating there was around 110kWt of useful waste heat (30% efficiency) of the total 1,365kW, meaning around 1200kW of unburnt gases or low heat ready for the Helix Accelerator and catalytic converter tech to turn into useful heat for the Stirling engine.
We don't really know the details of the Helix Accelerator or the catalytic converter, but it seems to me that's what's going on. By the magic (I've got some ideas on how it might work, but it might as well be magic at this point!) of the Helix Accelerator we managed to near double the useful heat power available to say 220kWt, meaning we could near double the 34kWe to 64kWe. That means there would be circa 1,100kW of partly burnt fuel we are now expecting to be able to be turned into circa 220kWt, from which a further 64We of power can be extracted.
64kWe + 64KWe = 131kWe with rounding errors.
The question is: can you get 220kWt of thermal from 1,100kW of partly burn fuel in the catalytic converter process? From what I can see no-one has asked this question before. Is this the USP?
Ob