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TMS,
Why are you trying to sound all reasonable all of a sudden?
You know, I know and everyone knows how much MT is worth and it's way more then 1.9moz, you clearly know that it's going to be in and around or above the ACF report.
You spent so much time on here with the most callous lies and disingenuous arguments that had absolutely no basis to them and when you were called out with a bit of wit, you turned it into a 'I'm being bullied' cry for help.
Sad thing is, you will probably be able to close your short at a profit tomorrow, a$$hole, honestly, people like you make me sick.
Jiffy,
IMO it's all to do with market timing, sentiment, traders and the US price movements.
BTC sell offs drive a fear in people, so naturally they sell off ARB, BTC price movements recently have been sketchy and predictable to the point that any rise in momentum is immediately sold into, as seen by the the move to $59k and immediately back down to $57k, so presumably more people have become aware to this and no longer FOMO buy into ARB.
There isn't much logic in the sentiment, BTC was in the $40ks when ARB was in the £2.50-£3.00 range, it's all to do with FOMO buying and panic selling, once that all dies down, it's created a natural shift towards the downside.
Luck plays a part in it too, if we didn't have a bank holiday the other week when BTC was at $59k, we likely would have gone back over £2, but by the time we opened the next day, BTC had already gone back down to $57k so we just fell and have kept falling ever since.
Riot and Mara and the general sell off in the US markets have an indirect effect on us too, we can sail along nicely throughout the day but if ARBKF and the US market want to bring us down, they will bring us down, and then when we open the next day we go down even further, it's just a terrible cycle.
At some point, the fundementals of the stock will naturally cause people to start buying in, and once BTC heads over $60k towards $70k, the FOMO crowd will return and we should see a move back past £2.
US all across the board including RIOT and MARA are recovering, ARBKF has recovered to $2.05, if you're looking at the Google price, it's delayed.
Live price: https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/ARBKF
Matt didn't do any research.
He went rainbow chasing, he was on the EUA board for months complaining that the sale process was taking so long, suddenly he disappeared (presumably sold out) and started posting here.
Some individuals really need to start learning how to invest properly, instead of chasing and being greedy on the spike.
There's a lot of money to be made here long term, but it's about taking the emotion out of it and just ignoring the lull periods, the share will eventually smash back through £2 in the next few weeks and momentum will return at some point, the fundementals are too strong.
Paper losses are part of the game and if you can't stand to see them, stay away from the stock market.
'Most importantly, was there as much demand for PGMs when we were at 10m MC as it is today?'
This is the best line I've read today.
The world is constantly changing, being adaptable is the most important things in any walk of life and those who are able to adapt and evolve are the ones who ultimately prosper.
Work from home wasn't a thing a year ago, now suddenly organisations have realised there is no need for employees to be in the office.
Bitcoin was at $3k 2 years ago, now all of a sudden everyone wants it on their balance sheet.
Demand is demand, if there is a demand, there is a market.
Also, no sensible investor, no matter how certain of the outcome they are, piles every little thing they have into one asset, and at the same time you don't price out suitors, strategy is half of the game when it comes to M&A, you let interest build organically.
Some of the arguments that TMS and TBTT are making are beyond belief, I actually can't comprehend some of what I'm reading, I've been avoiding this BB recently because some of the terrible, asinine and frankly cringe-worthy attempts at trying to spread fear.
The intense frequencey of their posting over the last week suggests panic mode to me, looks like they rested their hopes because the placing they presumed was going to happen after the EGM.
Calamari, BTC was at 63k whilst Argo was at sub £1.60, you know full well that it's not about the price, it's about the price action and movement, BTC moved up from 53k on Friday to 58k on Saturday, let's not play games here because you already understand this element.
You have a notorious reputation on LSE for being the biggest flip-flopper based on your trading position on a number of popular shares, so if I was you I'd re-think my play before you comment any further.
Market timing skewed everything with the bank holiday and BTC's rise and fall, the bank holiday came at an awful time.
If this RNS had been released yesterday, as BTC was reaching 59k yesterday morning, we highly would have flown past £2 towards £2.10-£2.20.
Then the US would have likely kept that rise sustained, but with the UK market closed, there was no reason for the US to sustain any serious price action as BTC slowly went down throughout the day.
With BTC dropping to 55k overnight, it was a perfect storm for a drop.
Bottom line is, MadStork, TBTT, PAAT and TDT, who seem to be running the smear campaign across the two main websites all have the same things in common.
They have categorically told lies to suit their opinion, and those lies are constantly evolving in order to suit their rhetoric, read through the posting history and you'll see how their claims keep changing, good example is, MadStork for months has refused to acknowledge any bids, now all of a sudden he assumes low-ball bids have been received and the non-binding offers actually exist. Remember how TBTT told this board a year ago that EUA's MT licence would be revoked and handed off to NN?
They are completely discrediting the assets through the Rosgeo agreement, despite the information provided by the BOD in regards to the validity of these new assets, we won't even talk about the MT Flanks because any dunderhead would realise there is more then 2m oz at MT, the whole idea around M&A is you purchase assets whilst they are developing or at a discounted price so you can make a profit, which is why Eurasia were approached.
Whenever their crap is called out, they divert and word their sentances in such a condescending manner that the amatuer unresearched investor would take what they at face value.
They all have the habit of selling too early or missing the boat (EUA/GGP), sold out too early and missed massive profits, envy runs through each post.
Ask yourself, why did TDT disappear as soon as the FSP started and only now re-appear? Albeit he has re-appeared on ADVFN, but where was his arguments for the last 9 months? Nowhere, because he knew he'd fudged up and wanted to save face.
The guy was hurting for so long, but as soon as he saw an opportunity through AC's sale and the prolonged FSP, he pounced, same with TBTT, who also has a history of cowardly disappearing after spreading fear, at GGP.
In addition, their posting history suggests they are all chancers and any long term share they invest in are absolute dogs, the great thing about the internet is you can talk a great game behind a screen, but when you get called out on your crap, you can run away and disappear from the board like they all tend to do.
Do yourself, the BOD and all other investors a favour here and report these individuals for falsely accusing all parties involved of a coordinated attempt to fraud and pump the share price, spreading lies about the company, defaming the name of all parties involved without substantial evidence to back up their claims.
Pathetic individuals.
One of the most desperate shorts I've seen in a very long time.
Wish he actually had some substance in his theories, it would at least make it a bit more entertaining.
All I see is the standard amatuer shorter remarks of "BOD salaries" "pump the share price" and "the truth will be out soon".
But I guess when you are full of fear, you will spend your day trying to spread it, I actually chuckle everytime I see him post here or on ADVFN because I can picture someone with little man syndrome sweating his balls off behind his computer trying to think of new ideas as to what to post on that given day.
How can you tell someone to shut up and then ask how that is deramping if you are then going to say everyone has an opinion.
If that is his opinion and everyone has a right to an opinion, you have no right to tell people to shut up.
Hypocrite.
ARB will be a fantastic share long term, it will just take 3-4 months before it gets back to £3, and with someone as unstable as that, he might end up selling out a loss, which is what happens when people start chasing.
I'm sure everyone when they first started was like that, fearful of losing money and would dip in and out, but over time you learn to diversify your holdings, not to panic sell or panic buy at the top for that matter.
The problem is the emotion as Gecko mentioned, all it took was a few people to discuss some profits on ARB (me included), throw in some negativity about how EUA hasn't moved for months and they jump ship.
Matt went rainbow chasing, he was moaning a lot about EUA here for a few weeks and eventually sold out, then I believe he bought the top at ARB around £3 and is now sitting at a heavy loss.
He now spends his time ramping the share all day long with the standard lines.
He will get his money back long term, but it shows that rainbow chasing doesn’t always work out.
'I'd like to know what motivates you to spend so much time posting? . If you're so confident,why not just sit back and wait?'
Works both ways Mel,
You have genuine investors, and then there are a few individuals who are short or believe this whole FSP is a scam to pump the share price.
Yet, the only individuals who seem to be panicking, or come across with fear in there posts are those who think it's all going to collapse, the shorters, whatever you want to call them, some of them are out here doing day night shifts, if I was short in a company, which I never would be, I'd sit back and let it play out, I wouldn't feel the need to post unless I had an underlying agenda.
There's a lot of holders here, me included, who have no need to panic, we've been here since pre-suspension and could sell out on Monday with a fantastic profit if we really wanted to, yet we've decided to stay invested because we believe in the company and the process.
The difference is, those confident of a successful outcome are here having genuine discussions, where as the individuals trying to spread fear, like TigerByTheTail, posted over a year ago that Eurasia's MT licence would be revoked and handed over to NN.
How on earth can individuals like that command any legitmacy in their posts, regardless of the idea around having a fair debate, agendas are clear and those individuals who spend time here posting are doing it to protect the company against these heinous fabrications.