RE: Translation 48 - Interview with ZM, 20m, 24/03/211 Apr 2021 03:22
Pt.2
J1 - By the way I must say about Mr. Kent by all means. It was a little heartbreaking when he was talking about barbed wire in our conflict region. He said that one could see the Russian soldier in those places. I also thought at that moment that I do not remember the Georgian Dream members talking about these barbed wire in our parliament. I do not know if I missed something. I remember the opposition raising these issues in the previous parliament, but I do not remember much about this issue from the representatives of our government. Of course, there was absolute goodwill, fanfare towards Georgia, but Mr. Rish raised the issue there and then spread the topic that there can be no help if a number of reforms are not carried out, there will be no healthy democracy, and so on. How do you think this process will develop? Yes, the hearing ended yesterday, they talked about the crisis and expressed their desire to resolve it, but now we are talking about adopting a resolution. How do you see the continuation of yesterday's story?
ZM - You mentioned the barbed wire, and the author of these barbed wire is the Kremlin and the current Russian government. By the way, during these hearings, Russia was heard from many different participants, practically everyone mentioned Russia several times. And, we must look at the big picture and the context in which Georgia is mentioned. This is very important because its players - Russia, Iran and Turkey, who are trying to move their agenda forward with Georgia and the region, are very active. We should not forget that after the collapse of the Soviet Union, it happened a few months ago, when Russia still has its troops in all the republics of the Caucasus - in Georgia, Azerbaijan and Armenia. Therefore, the geopolitical situation has changed and it has not changed in favor of Europe and the US. For Georgia, whose aspiration is to become a member of the European Union and NATO, to be in a strategic relationship with the United States, this is a very bad and negative context.
J1 - However, it was also said that if it continues like this, you will not become a member of NATO. The Georgian government says it wants a Euro-Atlantic course but that is still a abstract issue. Such kind of thing was said at the hearings - You have to follow the values that these countries follow, otherwise you will not be a member of NATO and the European Union.