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How much did CRS pay for Dlar and what would it of averaged down to after today's but in ? Thanks
Posters thoughts on whether RB might be considering using the 15 mill held back from hur monies to be buying more De la rue shares at this lower price to average down ?? Thanka
Good luck guys for the future and a sorry scenario for the v.long time holders who bought high now with losses 😬 hope you earn it back else where.
I've sold and decided to buy crystal as at least the div's stay in my isa. I'm sure I will chat to a few on here with other shares at some point. But for now au revoir 🙏
Kever
Just reading through the posts today and it seems you didn't take advice to go and do some research into the voting scenario and what the outcomes meant good bad or indifferent tomorrow or else you would of not put yourself in the predicament of people pointing out facts to your fiction.... Please for the last time get it into your head if it's yes and yes tomorrow it is not all over for us as the judge can still decide to go against granting sanction to this scheme of arrangement which like pointed out earlier on here of how the judge so rightly did the same in the 2021 case.
Broomie stick you make a fool of yourself without any help from me or anyone else, apart from Kever who ever agrees with you on your opinions which you portray as facts like a big know it all and how many arguements do you get into.
Broomie stick
Good come back seeing as your initial opinion as you put it was incorrect!!!
Try putting correct me if I'm wrong at the beginning of your posts and you will be received much more politely instead of being a know all and when you are wrong admit it, you will be amazed how much better your posts will be received.
Yippee hope we win.... Take kever with you won't you please
Broomtree I suggest you go away and do some research as to how the votes work and which vote supersedes which and also what power the objections have over the overall result to be decided by the judge , because if you are right with your aspersions on the matter all the hours some of us have put in to hopefully get this deal dumped are in vain....
I assure you I have put in a tremendous effort and many hours to try and understand the way the votes work/court process and limitations positive or negative as have lots of others shareholders too....
But you seem to of obviously done none but are very sure of your facts. But I'm sure you will be able to concoct an explanation for us being the decent chap you are.
Machin, ahh that s why then as I didn't know iweb was part of Lloyds group. Thanks
Machin
The doc/message you posted must be generic 1 which some of the brokers are using to clarify this too shareholders as it's actually the same as the 1 I got from Lloyds investments, I posted an insert earlier of it and it's the same.
I've just had this statement from Lloyds investments...
As the New DCU's will not be listed on any Recognised Exchange as defined by HMRC for ISA qualifying purposes. Your New DCU's will not be eligible to be held in an ISA. Should you hold your Hurricane shares within an ISA, we will transfer your New DCU's to your Share Dealing Account should the Scheme become effective. If you do not have a Share Dealing Account, we will arrange to open one for you.
Come guys vote if you have shares in an ISA account they probably will not be able to stay there and loose the tax incentive !!
Vote now not long left
Two hours left guys till dead line........
Come on don't leave it to others to vote for you vote for you own interests !!! Don't delay.
Vote vote vote vote vote vote
senseman original post
VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE
read DF (dflynch)'s excellent original post explaining beautifully WHY all should vote, and HOW. (see 23.42 post below)
404x backs up with link to Hargreaves Lansdown (PI largest nominee broker - perhaps 50%)
HARGREAVES LANSDOWN VOTING (online) (phone to instruct if not online)
Brokers will likely apply strict deadlines. Hargreaves Lansdown (HL) deadline is Friday 28 April 1pm UK time (2pm CEST).
To vote via HL - Login
Under 'My Account' tab dropdown - click 'Portfolio Home' on far left - will open accounts etc
At far right see & click 'Shareholder meetings'. See (2) listed 'Court Mandated Meeting' & 'Ordinary General Meeting'
At far right click (each in turn) 'Give Instructions' tab'
Court Mandated Meeting - 1 item to vote on
Ordinary Mandated Meeting - 2 items to vote on
There is a PRINT option after each 'Meeting' vote, If can, print and retain (take to meeting if attending)
Hargreaves Lansdown link is https://online.hl.co.uk/my-accounts/investor-mailbox
Because of the 4 May's cruciality (a voting meeting), HUR may insist upon broker letter confirming HUR SH status & holding for entry to the meeting. If one intends attending, phone or message broker for email, message or letter confirming such & take to meeting.
DF (dflynch) will repost repeatedly between now & Friday 1pm. I will do similar with this post. Please do not get irate - many SHs only look in here periodically - and 4 May is CRUCIAL. It does not matter whether one votes for or against, it DOES matter that as many of the 21% HUR PIs as possible vote, and vote on BOTH meetings (ie Court & General). BOTH matter. I have voted against (NO) to all proposals, but that is just my view.
VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE
DF (dflynch) original post
CRUCIAL - Vote your HUR shares today
It is now getting critical that Investors, if they have not already done so, cast their votes for the Court Meeting and the Extraordinary General Meeting taking place on Thursday 4th May.
At the Court meeting individual Investors on the HURR company register at 6pm on Monday 1st of May can cast their one vote. Beneficial owners of HURR shares, that is Investors holding HURR shares in a Broker’s “Nominee” accounts, are disenfranchised from voting at this meeting.
However, and of particular importance to these disenfranchised Investors is the vote at the Extraordinary General Meeting, which follows the Court meeting. At this meeting PRAX and the HURR Board of Directors require 75% of the votes cast at that meeting to be in favour of the Scheme. That is not 75% of HURR shares on the company register; it is 75% of the shares voted at the meeting.
This is where the disenfranchised beneficial owners of HURR shares can influence events, as they can vote all their HURR shares held in Brokers “nominee accounts. Your vote will count and influence the result.
Each individual Broker will have a different method of recording votes cast by the beneficial owners of HURR shares. These usually are by either “secure” message, a telephone call, or a corporate actions “voting” function on the Broker’s website.
For example, Interactive’s clients use a corporate action’s voting function – very easy and efficient. It would be helpful if posters could post the method used by their brokers so that others may benefit and vote.
In order to process these votes Brokers usually close the voting days before the meeting so it is critically essential to CAST VOTES TODAY!
I think anything the judge deems as unfair for the minority shareholders under section 944 is going to stick whether it's illegal/legal/proven or unproven it's at the judges own discretion.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if we got judge Zacaroli's, he would be tough on Hur on the old fairness front after last time. Nevertheless we are letting the judge ruling on this case know of Hur previous conduct which they would probably would already be aware of but best to cover every angle.
Vote vote vote guys !!!!!!!
Proinvestor is 100% correct about the share splitting !
I also read detail of a case where the judge threw out the case very early in proceedings ruling on schedule of arrangement where shares were given ( think was employees if I remember correctly ) to individuals to vote a certain way to bring up the numbers for the court vote. The judge from what I read was very annoyed at this underhand tactics and threw the case straight out.
So Hur maybe has just given us more ammunition if they are getting family members to buy shares to achieve getting thier head count numbers up and hopefully as soon as the judge sees this they will act accordingly.
Thanks Hurricane you just played another blinder, keep them coming please as it's getting funnier and more helpful by the day hahahahahaha
Polite reminder,
So here is the email to send your objections to for the judge to ponder on whether he thinks this deal is fair to minority shareholders and make the subject line and heading of email the case number below. The Clerk in this office gave this email and said it would create a file for the judge to read at his leisure, so blow this email address up with relevant information guys
RE: Case number CR -2023-001420
chanceryjudgeslisting@justice.gov.uk
So be concise short-winded and make it easy for the judge to trawl through all the emails that are sent. On the voting court side of things each shareholder gets a vote per head rather than counted on share amounts as Senseman has just outlined from the meeting, there are far more of us than the institutional shareholders.... Thanks
Vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote
Dflynch's post
It is now getting critical that Investors, if they have not already done so, cast their votes for the Court Meeting and the Extraordinary General Meeting taking place on Thursday 4th May.
At the Court meeting individual Investors on the HURR company register at 6pm on Monday 1st of May can cast their one vote. Beneficial owners of HURR shares, that is Investors holding HURR shares in a Broker’s “Nominee” accounts, are disenfranchised from voting at this meeting.
However, and of particular importance to these disenfranchised Investors is the vote at the Extraordinary General Meeting, which follows the Court meeting. At this meeting PRAX and the HURR Board of Directors require 75% of the votes cast at that meeting to be in favour of the Scheme. That is not 75% of HURR shares on the company register; it is 75% of the shares voted at the meeting.
This is where the disenfranchised beneficial owners of HURR shares can influence events, as they can vote all their HURR shares held in Brokers “nominee accounts. Your vote will count and influence the result.
Each individual Broker will have a different method of recording votes cast by the beneficial owners of HURR shares. These usually are by either “secure” message, a telephone call, or a corporate actions “voting” function on the Broker’s website.
For example, Interactive’s clients use a corporate action’s voting function – very easy and efficient. It would be helpful if posters could post the method used by their brokers so that others may benefit and vote.
In order to process these votes Brokers usually close the voting days before the meeting so it is critically essential to CAST VOTES TODAY!
Oh and i was dictating on my phone the Tonto post and with my Yorkshire accent ended up as Hercules heel rather than Achilles heel, oops sure everyone got the drift....
My moto - go hard or go home so full Tonto it was thanks Sense
Vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote vote
Preferably NO tho lol