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Building nicely. It was pretty clear last year that marketing of the JV was pretty limited for reasons we know now, but that feels like breaking cover.

I honestly thought, Frogfish, that you were one of the few sane ones on here. Sorry, my mistake.

Below are some of my comments yesterday. Yet somehow you think I'm a shorter.

Really, really strange conclusion. Just because I don't think that the moon on a stick is guaranteed and I have some connection with the really world out there doesn't mean I'm not a long term holder (because I very much am, from the early days of Abramovich). We are still very much in a high risk, potential high reward environment and anyone who can't acknowledge that is just fooling themselves. After all, if the outcome which all shareholders want is guaranteed then why on earth are we still footling along at under 15p a share?

It is in the accompanying commentary that I expect to find interesting information and that would include updates on cash and the potential need for more.

We need the update to reiterate confidence that those three (and others?) will deliver on expectations and promise further growth. As yet, of course, there is no detail on those revenues (and nor would anyone reasonable expect any) but as we get closer to those dates hopefully clarity will improve and we see a path to profitability. Hopefully there will be a very positive IM event later this month

Largely agree. (that this could be the last chance to get in at a good price)

i respect helikon's right to short - but i hope they lose many, many millions!

I expect plenty of interest in the accompanying statements and management outlook. I very much expect those elements which come ALONGSIDE the results but aren't part of them to be positive and to hopefully demonstrate real, well-founded optimism for the future.

Point to a single unreasonable thing that I have said. Just looking for a sensible debate (weirdly, nobody has done - because I haven't said anything unreasonable)

Contract signed does not necessarily equal everything happened as planned. It's really not that hard a concept. If NL paid six times what they will be available for next year I'd expect that their FD would have been fired by now.

Tenner to charity bet depending in whether there is any NL revenue identified in the forthcoming financial report? And I hope I am wrong.

That'[s a good point, Jack. And it is why I have reported several posts from recently and will continue to do so

Go on the, you obviously mean me. Point to a single unreasonable thing that I have said. Just looking for a sensible debate - there's nothing negative about telling the truth

Do I detect an untypical sign of backtracking?

Multiple times you have said that the the have been delivered and are in use, based on a contract from over a year ago , even saying do before they were even due for delivery. But now these are the models that 'will be using' our modules...

Clearly the existence of a contract does not guarantee delivery. Conditions have to be met for that to happen, and I do not believe that the finance department of Niftylift will have approved purchases at the prices that were prevailing a year ago - perhaps a price reduction was foreseen in the contract - I don't know and neither do you..

If they are yet to be delivered (which is my assumption) then the delivery clearly will not happen until the middle of 2026 at the earliest.

Sits back and awaits stream of invective

Yes, I agree. I'm talking about the actual results -i.e. the financial performance for the period being reported on. I can't see how there can be any surprises there You know who is adamant that there will be income from Nifty. I would be pleasantly surprised were that to be the case.

It is in the accompanying commentary that I expect to find interesting information and that would include updates on cash and the potential need for more.

He ramps, ramps and then ramps some more. That could just wash over but on top of that his default position to insult and belittle anyone who isn't one-eyed is the reason that I will be reporting him very frequently. Simply put, this board could be infinitely more useful without him

As per, a total misunderstanding Ade.

By results I mean the financial outcome of the half year. I expect nothing interesting in those because we already know that attention is focused on future products and services, not those that were available during that period. I expect plenty of interest in the accompanying statements and management outlook. I very much expect those elements which come ALONGSIDE the results but aren't part of them to be positive and to hopefully demonstrate real, well-founded optimism for the future.

i would add, sono***un, that i respect helikon's right to short - but i hope they lose many, many millions!

They are neither positive nor negative; they are aimed at a sensible discussion. It is unfortunate that you have totally opted out of any such thing. Nothing I have said could be interpreted by anyone sane as an attempt to push the price down. Absolutely nothing.

There are several possibilities, some of which are more attractive than others. What there isn't, is any possibility of clarity on the subject within a couple of weeks of the publication of results.

Can this very strange person can point to a single specific thing I have said that suggests shorting activity?

Largely agree. I don't expect anything at all interesting in the results - a few quid from the Speedy rentals and not much else bar some interest on bank balances, but that's not really relevant. Might be something from Acciona and I don't expect anything via Nifty (yet). El Rampero can post the RNS announcing the contract as much as he likes but that doesn't confirm it actually happened.

The last three RNSs (bar total voting rights!) have 'promised':

...material AFC Energy revenues from 2027 onwards (the S&P 500 partner)

...mid-2026 for delivery of our first low cost generators (the 85% reduced cost version)

Initial revenues expected in early 2026 (the ICL JV)

We need the update to reiterate confidence that those three (and others?) will deliver on expectations and promise further growth.

As yet, of course, there is no detail on those revenues (and nor would anyone reasonable expect any) but as we get closer to those dates hopefully clarity will improve and we see a path to profitability.

Hopefully there will be a very positive IM event later this month

Report repeated ramping

Report, report, report

Report, report, report

There was a time when this board was a place where shareholders, actual and potential, could share constructive thoughts, enhance understanding of the company, its products, markets, prospects etc.

Sadly, that time has long gone due to the antics of a couple of obsessive individuals who think they own the board and that nobody else has any right to express any view that doesn't accord 100% with theirs.

Anyone who has the temerity to do so is shouted down, but not just shouted down - abused with words such as scum, moron, mong being frequently thrown out there.

Unacceptable by any reasonable person's standards and apparently unacceptable by the published standards of the operators of this board. And that's before we get to the re[peated lies put out by the ramper in chief which, again, are said to be unacceptable by LSE.

I would urge any poster who wishes this board to return to being at all useful to report, report, report and get these individuals removed so that some grown ups can actually have a discussion.

I literally have no idea what hat last post means

Are new posters asking reasonable questions not allowed on here. What a strange place!