Brief on L2 http://www.lse.co.uk/general-chat-discussion.asp?TopCode=EO4FL7DT As OS mentioned elsewhere it's use depends on how you're reading it and the liquidity of the stock. Works better on lower volume shares as trying to follow it on the big ones can be quite stressful. If anything most private investors are not setup to make use of miniscule movements at the top end. ND doesn't need any help but frankly as various have posted before, none of the premium members "revel" in punters losing money.. Unfortunately negative outlook/criticism is apparently ignored or seen as de-ramping.. Which is more damaging? If you're in something for the long term as various state you should have no concern with what's happening nor for that matter need to promote the share. ... less is more.
As per Moosh there was a big buy signal in July, at the moment it's a grind upwards. Quite interesting at the moment in terms of charts and technical indicators, some supporting the bullish outlook while others showing a pullback, when and how large is anyones guess at the moment. On the other side you have the economists and those looking at the fundamentals supporting one side or the other. In short no-one bloody knows but while the trend is still up the the majority of the trades are long. No use posting after the fact but DOW 10-10.5k are big targets. Gold and some of the currency pairs are at various highs which rather fills me with some trepadation. What's the next move?.... Of course it could be a bit of a grind from here on trading within a range for a good while, will pull out a chart or two.
Looks like people were already playing. Curious - Are comments in a private area subject to libel action? It is after all a discussion on a board available to a select few and not a public article aimed at defamation.
There is the filter button
Fill/Kill orders work for orders around mid-price
lol, it's not really the unlimited part. More the stability and speed when needed, don't have much experience with mobile dongles but they weren't that good almost like being on dialup all those years ago. Service has changed over to higher speeds which might have changed things. You should have a backup if this is your life job, could get one of those awful/fantastic days when you may need it. Stick in a wireless router (they usually provide one free of charge with whatever service you have) and you can trade from the throne room. Colleague of mine us to do that.
Land broadband is a must if you spend any length of time at home. See if you can get onto 02 or Be broadband as they are running better/reliable services. 02 offers a discount rate if you have an o2 mobile. OS - i thought you had twin broadband at home;p Been looking at the online dongles for mobile trading, there was a deal quite recently to receive it on the cheap, will dig it out... btw are you a fan ofSushi as your name partly implies? Any thoughts on CAL, big rights issue. Price stabalised for a while and possible on an up trend following the pattern of other RI stocks? Though i have half an eye on a market pull back.
Talk about redundacy, i was going to suggest having another machine as standby but twin broadband is another step up. Even and oldish pc will do, unless you're running realtime chart applications. Siphon some of those profits into providing you with adequate means at least
One point i will make is typical line that MM and whatever games they may play is bandied around far too often and is a weak excuse for why a share has or has not moved as desired. It detracts from taking a far greater analytical review of your own performance and what you could have/should have done. If they are truly the evil force hell bent on destroying the private investor then there is nothing really an investor can really do to combat it. They would have to be one step of the game regardless of what methods the majority are using based on TA or FA analysis. AIM based shares have far easier L2 information to read and that tends to show what the MM are doing. All too often it shows they are priced around the sellers and buyers rather than any great conspiracy unless there is an excess in stock or larger sell orders coming through which cannot be followed as easily by the private investor. If you are trading then trade what you see, leave the conspiracy theories outside.
On the flip side some of the positive/pro posting on boards of those type of shares are equally as troublesome. The "respected" members show honest genuine concern having seem similar movements before time and again over the past months if not years. Each time small time investors unfortunately buy in at prices they should not have, led astray by both the euphoria of the moment and posting of the users. One can not ask people to take responsibility for themselves and do their own research, while at the same time actively promoting a share and making posts with the hope/desire for people to follow suit. The negative posters are all to often viewed as "derapming" (if there is such a word), even if they post urging caution. More so by the very same inexperienced traders who are happy when things move in their direction but cry foul when it does not. After the fact negative posters are seen as spiteful people, taking joy out of the misfortune of others. Some may well do but the majority do not. Negative debate, or looking at the downside is all to often ignored to downright criticised. There are other differences highlighted one that of discussing TA with users of FA and vice versa, the two viewpoints may not marry that well at times. This also ties in with timeframes, the investor vs the trader mindset that all too often clash.
Tricky one to call, one person's ramping is anothers opinion/info. At the end of the day most have their own interests at heart in one form or another. I tend to class people continually posting/repeating messages on a board as a form of "ramping", depends on the context and content. That would classify most of the posters on LSE a ramper in one form or another but there's a fine line posting information/helping, posting your trades to talking up your share. Another user posted some time ago (FJP) that it would be better for all if people posted their actual trades, doesn't need the amount invested. Just the buy/sell prices especially if they have targets, makes things more transparent. Even that itself is open to exploitation as it's all still written text posted anonymously on a bulletin board. As for content or supposed lack of on the premium boards, as has been commented less is more. Or perhaps Quality generally outweighs quantity, though that's not the perception always followed on forums. The Technical analysis posted is fine and very useful, put the time into understanding them and the jargon used becomes clearer. HGC - I can provide a list of posters who i find good value, those who i don't either continually come back as a different alias or is something to be shared privately rather than publicly.
Interesting to see the tech side is catching up a little with the easy identification of regular and premium chat boards. Gives a little more light to see who is reading what and likewise. Can't say i care to much for regular chat, it's much the same as other share trading boards with similar (if not the same) characters. The more popular a place the greater the range of people it attracts. The multiple id users only really need a single Premium account to keep in the loop and can quite effective use that for their own benefit while still ramping. From a tech side IP filtering would stop all but the most determined, but when money is involved people try that little harder. All too often various posters find and appeal to their various fan club/readers without concentrating on the main. For the newer readers to Premium chat, i think you'll find that various posters here found it as a means to express what they could not in the dearth and barrage of posts that accompany the current popular share board. Caveat, if premium takes off then it too may slowly dip in quality and content. I tend to find less is more.
Mention in the FT has helped, something else in the pipelines? http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/92254bb8-996b-11de-ab8c-00144feabdc0.html
One of these days when i think add i'l just do it.
One for spreadbetting with guaranteed stop losses here. Limit your risk on a bit of a gamble...
As per moosh, or if you have reliable stop loss mechanism keep moving them up till you get stopped out. Either using 15 min candles or some sort of trend/resistance/historical price.
Pretty much avoided most of the high traffic boards other than one or two, mainly just to catch a few decent (imo) views. Perhaps saying ramp is a little mis-leading for a few shares but it's the general mass buying based on a few people posting that continually catches people.. usually backed up by nothing of real tangible value. The worse trait is when people, including ourselves, post warnings/urge caution. Outright tell it exactly like it is only to be ignored and classed as a someone with an ulterior motive.... I've actually started paper trading short on various just as an exercise in testing that theory. ND what you say about posting numbers is pretty much spot on.. unfortunately people equate high post counts with some level of seniority instead of looking at how long they have been around. Unfortunately you can't save everyone, especially when we all want easy money. question to moosh/Os.. why not apply charting to the shares with larger prices? If you're not spread betting that's understandable.
With your last thought i would lean towards an direct impact on sp. Though many people say bulletin boards cannot have an impact on the movement of shareprice i actually think they do, especially when there is a "frenzy". There aren't too many boards around but main three (LSE, iii and ADVFN) have enough traffic on them from PI to have some impact on the smaller illiquid shares. It's why some users will spam/post on all three boards at once playing the same trumpet of a quick win. I've followed a few penny shares before and looked at the buy/sell volume and watching the trades and in my conclusion on those almost 99% of trades were PI and most of those were reading one or al of the boards as the movement in price would coincide with postings. This is partly the reason why shares that have a sudden price explosion usually do so for about 3 days (max) before pulling right back to fair value/natural progression. There are always exceptions to rules but it still holds fairly steady.
One thought though on most placements after a stall in the sp and an attempt to clear the stock overhang there is usually a fairly decent movement upwards. Can't bring anything on the fundamentals etc unfortunately
Caught this one up again, unfortunately i lost binned most of the notes i made on this one. It was the usual broker spiel trying to offload placement shares onto "unsuspecting" client though most of the placements have had the sp fall towards the placement price in the short term. From what i can remember they had high hopes for this one but a price target of about 70p which would be the average top/ trading level from about last year. Had a look at the charts and the there was something there that wasn't as appealing. The MA are about to cross downward and the macd is still in negative territory with no sign of crossing upwards. On the plus side is that the share is highly illiquid and not much volume so charts can alter quickly, also a bottom of the wedge trend line is getting close which could get cause the SP to bounce. On the sidelines here