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Done same HNS, it's been fun at times. Good few decent folks over these years on this board. Been tough at times too and some right fuds also.
We all live to fight a other day, health before wealth :-)
Depends what you mean by this.
Happy to leave the fame and fortune to you bonks ;-)
Hey Sammy, no you will see £1.83 by Feb 31st (just it will be for your entire Cine holding). Think mine will be c. 27p.
Life's a .... And all that mate :-)
Bray, You are wildly out with your overall holdings.
What is the benefit of kidding yourself on?
The movie slate is NOT back to "normal/pre pandemic levels" So far in 2023 it's running around half the number of films v pre COVID times.
Revenues are still WAY short of pre pandemic times also (think c. 70% so far this year).
Company repeatedly tell us we are getting f all or as near as damn it.
Company repeatedly tell us recovery not for another couple of YEARS yet regards attendance/revenues.
These are the facts of the situation, stop pretending to yourself otherwise (or worse trying to con others into heavily investing on stories of multi bagging gold mine).
Similar "reputable analysts" had £2 type share price projections not so long ago.
As stated by sensible poster here, these forecasts are so historic it's not true.
Anyone that's been here more than few weeks or months though would know this.
Never been "away", just not seeing anything in last months to alter what company has repeatedly warned us "very significant dilution" potentially even completely wiped out.
Might there be more than 4p per share scraps left for us? Yes there might.
Will there be £1+ per share days again for us long-term holders, not a hope in hell's chance.
HNS, That's one spin on it to say improvement from last February. However we know that was dreadful and we also know 82% of 2019 levels os still well short of what the business needs as a minimum.
"Also, as far as dilution of equity argument, I don't believe cineworld will end up as a company listing trillion shares."
There can be "very significant " dilution (company's own words) without resulting in trillion shares. Share consolidation at same time of dilution!
Unfortunately I think it's currently 2 YEARS until the next instalment.
Those the have been here for a bit have all been down this road countless times now.
At first many/most spoke of the strong line up, plenty movies blah blah. Overtime some/many of us then seem that beyond the intermittent blockbusters we just didn't and a don't have the required movie depth.
Don't believe me though. Look at likes of box office mojo or indeed the companies own data.
See a worthwhile measurable period of a year, a half, heck even a quarter year (or if very desperate look at pretty much every month since post COVID).
It's NOT enough and short to medium term there is NOTHING to suggest that is changing for better.
Will it medium to long-term? Maybe, but we don't have anything concrete to say it's highly likely.
All of which is most likely only relevant for whoever ends up with the company swiped from our hands.
HNS, Come on you are (or were) better than that.
2/3 income levels does NOT = 2/3 company valuation.
HNS Unfortunately we can't just forget everything else between pre Regal leveraged purchase and now.
Even Cineworld themselves have noted more than once previous levels of box office are not expected anytime soon.
Business with reduced revenue (prorata) are not going to be valued as highly.
All else is not equal now either.
Don't get me wrong I would do cartwheels if we were to see 50p + share price say within this year.
I just struggle to see any realistic route now to that.
Merry Christmas (when it comes) you filthy animals.
Love to you and your families.
Have fun..life is short.
Yo ho ho good to hear from you crazy pair.
Life is indeed good, only the ending really that's sh..1 t.
That lack of film releases making it ever harder for my visits to push SP up unfortunately Bonks.
Miracle on 34th street time of year though so £6 by this time next week ;-)
Keep enjoying life Amigos
Hope Athens is surviving your trip Bonks.
Don't know about planes and simulator pilots. Definitely been more than fair share of absolute rockets over cine board recently.
All good here Bonks, hope you and those you love are too.
For the tiny percentage that got in at 2/3p great.
For the tiny percentage that have traded it well down here - also great.
The rest of us though even yesterday's 200% is of little consequence.
Majority of what's on here now isn't as "useful" as the lonely hearts pages ;-)
Still alive Bonks,
Personal view now little to say regards Cine for us invested at much higher prices.
Looks 99.99% certain to me heavy dilution and by that 0.01% chance us ever getting substantial part of investment back.
Company have said it repeatedly now. They have also stated don't expect return to previous attendance levels in 2023 or 2024.
I made CGT gains on property sale so made tough decision to sell biggest chunk of my holdings last week at little over 3p and huge losses. I can at least write off my tax gain on property that way.
Hope you and our other crazy friends all good.
Well, I can't see a route that gets us to the £ or more.
We are basically waiting to see just how tiny our share going forward is aren't we!?
It's already a done deal as far as I can see so between nothing and low double digit pence it looks like to me.