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I guess how many of us are down 20% on his 4m or whatever it is. I know I’m not but still fed up. So he’s probably got a big bottle of whisky reading all the emails that were sent to him this morning , maybe he sent replies to those saying, what about my hundreds of thousands I have lost today!
Sorry down 20% not 30%. Again never read back posts.
Stark.
No need for sorry, I’m with you and others on this point.
He’s not a great ceo, but a great deal maker.
And no doubt he will
Be saying to his wife’ oh my god I forgot that I am now one of them! Lol.
She probably patted him on the head and said’ who’s great idea was that Andrew. ‘
Now who going to buy my new Louis vitton collection.
Therefore he will be at that desk Tommorow trying to earn us all money.
Sort of makes sense.
Could be so wrong but there is so much mystery to vast generally, however ap’s stake cant lie. He has been stuffed big time on his .66 price and he’s down 30% on his 17 ish. On what £4 million. So he’s £800k down on that alone? Hope my figures are right. Well if I am I’m sure you will agree that he is one angry man,
The flip is maybe he’s bought loads at 13 to soften the .17 blow and he’s not so fed up.
Either way he’s not happy I’m sure.
I writebto dam fast, I meant prelea never loses his money!!! Loses plenty of vasts. Lol but not his. That’s why he is doing what he’s doing.
By all means call me stupid but the last five posters have said exactly the same as was said earlier. There’s a plan and we have missed it. Now bloody tell us so!!!!!!ap
Oh my god did nobody read my post this morning or sandy staying this exactly???????????now that’s five posters who have woken up to this. Look I don’t mean to be rude saying this but this is so obvious. Ap may be many things but he doesn’t lose money. Why doesn’t anyone get this. The bank have insisted on this money being raised , this isn’t an atlas conversion job.
And if the bank don’t cough up so will be thinking’ ah I can quickly put out an rns saying we can pay off atlas mostly, and arent I clever. ! And people likenyou and me will Tnink’ oh ok bank we’re asking to much like atlas we’re and Bergen do stuff them we will pay the greedy soda off’
The price will then rise as he has cleared debt or as sandy said there may be another perfectly reasonable explanation such as bank want vast to clear debt first.
Either one.
But most importantly ap is down 20% or whatever like the rest of us fools.
And he won’t be happy like the rest of us.
So he will have a plan, nfortunately he never explains his plans well, which makes him a busy fool. But I fornone am holding because ap will not be selling at 13p will he.
Sandy.
Interesting point.
Maybe one or the other.
But remember ap raised ahead of atlas last time, preparing. I guess that money is paying salaries and mine costs as they didn’t convert which is reasonable.
But I think he’s done this for good reason whether as a wish from the bank as they need to see atlas paid by vast as you say or ap is waiting for bank to poss say no, but be prepared with his speech which I think will keep share ok.
Surely even the ap haters will see him planing ahead as a good move?
Almost like.a real ceo!!!!
Each to their own.
Glad that people have so many views on here.
Who knows what will happen but I believe like others that ap wants big investors and all is laid out. All because he has billions of shares that are worth bugger all now. Remember that everyone. Down shedloads.
Sport meant atlas not vast in first line!
Back to mynpoint my guess if bank don’t come through is ap does a video saying bank were to much effort. We raised as I’m smart and saw problems however we are now paying off atlas tranche 1 , still love atlas so they still have zim funds when we are ready, and by the way he will say we are virtually debt free and producing shed loads. He will come out smelling of roses on this I think
Sandy
If ap is planing to pay off vast, if the bank don’t come through isnt that better than the threat of atlas converting again and again?? Mercuria as sandy has stated many time’s are holding off for an agreed period
So again, I say, is this so bad, as atlas have only held off till jan.
and as I said and sandy why would this be good for ap as his stake is down more than anyone here.
If I’m right, it’s a decent plan b.
Otherwise 1st jan atlas convert and bank could have pulled. Isn’t this a plan b strategy?
Two options ,
Sell or sit tight for just under a year to when ap sells off his stake at a spiked price.
Just watch. At least a year.
Salary isn’t his real care. He wants the millions so he can show off. His salary isn’t going to get him into the boys club.
Colin
His salary is not the point.
Remember he has got a mine producing.
I don’t like the way he behaves but it’s producing. Surely?
I don’t think the bank will come through and I think this money is to pay off atlas and leave the last mill or whatever on easy deal
Also is it better having small debt with 21b debt if bank don’t come through or 17b shares with big debt. Me I prefer the first. Less risk
A few questions
1. Ap is tied up now with shareholders so surely he must feel confident in what he’s doing?
2. If the cash has to pay atlas as the bank won’t come through then that’s not bad. Gets rid of them or most of it and we then have very small debt only to mercuria and atlas.
Then income to cover it?
Ap shareholding has just dropped 20% like the rest?
He should do a video now to explain.
It’s a stinker of an rns but their surely method in it.
This man wants I believe to sell his stake for a massive profit. He has planned that so why is everybody panicking?
Yes it feels like more lies but as long as that man has billions of shares as he said at .65 and .17 then he’s down a tonne.
Hippy
Kind of you to say. Thought I was going to have gb47 coming after me the post was so aggressive. . Must be the years of waiting like the rest of us, however there is no need for bad behaviour. We are all here to chat and make money ,
I agree with a lot of below. I feel vast now is like Peter Elliot , the 800 m runner of old.
Never quite made it, everyone have up on him coming through, even though he was a great talent. So like vast lots of hope and many races. Then you turn on the championships and the 800m comes on.
You remember the genius coe and ovett and Tnink, oh well another maybe race,
Last lap and Elliot comes out of nowhere and you jump out of your seat like a mad person. And he wins the race.
This is vast. The big rise will happen when you least expect it and all the money men and their mates will have bought on then it will be hiked up and they will all sell.
Can I just ask.
It’s understandable that people are fed up.
However ap and the other one own 4b new shares , correct.
Now even an average bloke like me can work out that ap and the other one will want to sell these 4b at a whacking great profit.
So two things will happen here.
1. He will sell these shares at POSs 68to make 16mprofit or whatever or sell at 136 to make 32m. Or figures similar etc.
So it doesn’t matter what I or any other disgruntled investor thinks.
Ap will only sell when he makes a killing.
Remember that. He won’t sell soon unless massive spike , then he will dump the lot in my opinion and sit back and still get paid and look at his millions.
Now he might not sell when it’s day 136 because he is determined to create a footsie company in his plans.
If he’s driven that much then we are all laughing.
To conclude. Ap will want the max price for his billions of shares. Therefore this share will only go from strength to strength
Just be patient. This morning all of us were serious fed up. On reflection one has to look at the long game and what’s really going on here. Our security is ap holding for a year then selling out.
So I’m my opinion put 25th November 202- in your diary as thats when 4b shares are going to be sold. And I will
Be selling mine the day before.
Great news after years of waiting. Great moment.
But the share price doesn’t move. Unbelievable.
Quite frankly what an anticlimax.
Everyone I presume if they are honest is thinking the same.
Companies can jump on news they have bought a truck.
Vast prudence hundreds of thousands of concentrate ?? and nothing.
I wish you all well. I’m out.
Johnny, you obviously can give us the amount you think we will receive, did younreally need to direct me to the rns.
Surely as we are all serious investors here you could have done me the courtesy of informing me how much you think we will receive , or spending ten seconds doing so would be a bit of a stretch fornyou.
Just looked at a sea of red sales on here.
Am I imagining this?
Ben , understood and grateful for your clear response.
Also clear re the raising.
I guess though that with revenue from bp there will be only so far further jorc s and investment into manaila etc can go.
One would hope finance and partners will take Care of that end.
So to conclude it’s a good thing with shares at 17b and will create better finance routes ,
Sorry I’m a bit lost.
My understanding is consolidation ends up with the
Same holding value wise but a tenth of the shares at ten times the price.
Am I missing something?