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MVarawa

Those figures are nearly what I have researched a while ago. But the overall figure I assume does not take into consideration inflation?

Asimple

So you agree 3,000 plus is a realistic figure just for ‘23? If you go and search the internet there are several sites that quote 6,000.

Even at 3,000 just for one year that is a cost of £33M, for 35 additional years at same cost it is £1.5B then add inflation in over same time frame you could be looking at £8B and this is just for one years worth.

The data was just for ‘23 and reflects over 3,000. The 6,000 is for two years as I mentioned. This has been an upward trend I believe starting from 2019. There is plenty of ‘useful’ information out there, just need to sift through it.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hiv-annual-data-tables/hiv-testing-prep-new-hiv-diagnoses-and-care-outcomes-for-people-accessing-hiv-services-2024-report

New HIV diagnoses

The main findings are:

there were 6,008 HIV diagnoses in England (including those previously diagnosed abroad) in 2023, an increase of 51% from 3,975 in 2022 and of 56% from 3,859 in 2019

in 2023, 53% (3,198 of 6,008) of diagnoses were reported to UKHSA as being previously diagnosed abroad

Asimple

It is the hidden costs that are possibly masked from the figures. It’s a known fact over the last two years 6,000 + migrants legal/illegal have stepped on our shores and have HIV. As such they are entitled to treatment from that first day. The MINIMUM yearly cost for treatment is £11,000. What is unknown to us is how many have come here beforehand with HIV and how many more will come in the next two years with it.

You go and do the figures say for a possible very conservative 12,000 people to fund each year, then multiply that for say another 35 years if they live that long and then factor in inflation as well for 35 years. That is the minimum base line cost, in reality it will be higher. The figures don’t make good reading. And this is just for one area they cost us not the rest that we are fed and other areas that we don’t know about.

If both governments were honest they know there would be even more uproar.

Mararab

“ Next you be saying cheese is related t o the share price ffs”

Well if you have a cheese supplier who banks with Lloyds and needs support for loans and overdrafts then yes it will have an association with Lloyds and profits and shares.

Mararab

That was a speculative statement which is not worthy to respond to. I said ‘ask some interesting questions’

Mararab

Why don’t you post something about Lloyds, like a question on the share price, where you think Lloyds is going, how the market will impact Lloyds etc etc.

Instead you just bang on about others posting other stuff which may not be relevant but some are indirectly but you can’t see down to that level, you just surface top level headings and get yourself all frustrated.

Ball is in your court now to post something Lloyds related, go on give it a try.

Ant

I have a list of over 400 I hate, would you like me to list them all for you?

Well nothing is going to change for the next four years or more.

Why do you keep coming back then?

TFE

“ That will be the government's front bench then.”

You mean the ménage à trois.

I believe that only 3,000 new police officers are planned. The rest will be made up of existing officers re-badged to new duties. Of those 3,000 new officers there will be zero additional funding for them, it has to come from existing budgets.

Another failed pledge before the ink has dried, what a useless tw at he is trying to fool us yet again.

Well it sounds like freedom of speech is coming to an end. Socialist’s don’t like people to be outspoken and have views, goes against the party’s Stasi rules. It won’t be long before we will be equal to China and Russia, just one wrong word and you are locked up with the key thrown away or even just disappear altogether.

I am not going to be intimidated by Stasi Starmer, I have human rights like the rest of us so called righties here and will express myself as I wish.

Starmer banging on about Labour for the workers of the country, us pensioners are air brushed out of the equation, not even mentioned. He forgets how much we put back into the economy. What a scum bag.

But not a commitment to reduce boat and migration problems, what a surprise!

Like to tell us what the debt level is for France, or shall I remind you?

France's deficit has already risen from 4.7pc of GDP in 2022 to 5.5pc in 2023, with credit ratings agency Standard and Poor's estimating borrowing will hit 6.2pc this year. EU rules say members should run a budget deficit of no more than 3pc and have a plan in place to get back to that level if the deficit is above it.

Going well for you in Euroland then STP? Want to give France some of your free cash to help them out?

The EU - a hopeless cause, a mortally wounded animal that needs burying once and for all.

And here is another reason why what happens in France matters beyond its borders: It's the second largest economy in the eurozone. Its budget deficit is ballooning way beyond EU norms. French government debt is similarly eyebrow-raising.

This is unsettling for French taxpayers worried about the cost of living, and uncomfortable for the rest of the eurozone, fearing the knock-on effects of damage to their currency’s reputation if Big Beast France appears out of control.

Big Beast Germany, meanwhile, the EU's largest economy, is also in trouble. Its once booming export industry so dented (even before the import tariffs threatened by Trump as of January 2025) that it risks pulling central and eastern European neighbours, long used by Germany as a factory floor, into its economically depressed orbit.

As some of us know, if the left keep going in a circle and the right do the same they meet up and join. The French have proved that this is true and look at the wonderful result.

Yes! Yes! Yes!