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ASI

This sounds like the documentary, apologies will be accepted.

Calais: France's Forgotten Migrants," which aired on Channel 4 roughly 4 years ago.

The documentary highlighted where migrants in Calais were attempting to access UK benefits

The program delved into the process of claiming benefits, the challenges migrants faced in navigating the system, and the implications of having "no recourse to public funds

ASI

“ Claim 1: Crib sheets and coaching. Can you provide a source for this? Which programme aired it, and what was the evidence? ”

I did say it was on TV, a documentary programme. So if you want to call me a liar and inventing it then go ahead believe what you wish. Can you remember in detail everything that happened about 3-4 years ago?

“ Claim 2: They come here because they know the system. That assumes economic motivation over safety.”

Yes, it is the main driver. If the French offered the same or better they would stop there. France is safe, isn’t it? Or are you saying it isn’t.

“ Claim 3: Citizenship means no return. That’s how citizenship works for everyone.”

Doesn’t mean we have to stay this way, a change of the law could settle that, perhaps we need to see how DT is addressing the issue. You can’t compare what is happening now to the Romans, you are just showing how childish you are now. And tell me, what benefits were around then monetary?

ASI

“ Most asylum seekers don’t know the intricacies of UK welfare — they know they’ll be housed in hotels, given £47/week, and banned from working. That’s not luxury — it’s survival.

Temporary Residence? Already Happens Your idea of sending people back once their country stabilises is already part of UK policy. Refugee status can be revoked if conditions improve. But in practice, many crises are long-term — Syria, Afghanistan, Sudan, Ukraine — and forcibly returning people to unstable regions violates international law.”

Then you are very naive if you believe that these people are not aware of our system, why do you think so many want to get here? They have crib sheets to read all about rights etc. It was discussed on a program aired a few years ago where Brits supporting migrants went to the camps in France and told them all about our system and what to claim.

Once they get UK citizenship you would never be able to send them back even if the home countries became stable again.

ASI

“A migrant moves for economic, educational, or personal reasons.

An asylum seeker flees persecution, war, or violence and applies for protection under international law.

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A migrant has no right to financial assistance when moving to other countries, they chose to move.

Asylum seekers, how do you prove if they really are one, I believe the opposite to you and most are economic migrants and coming here for the benefits of our system which you get as an asylum seeker. It is the better option as they know as a true migrant they get nothing.

The reality of this is, is that no one wants or can solve the root cause of why they are moving from countries in a crisis. If there was no turmoil then they would either not move or be a real migrant.

Perhaps the deal should be that if the home country has no crisis in the future then we send them back. Treat the time they are here as temporary residence.

Flec

“… people should be put up against a wall and have their throats cut?”

I guess this means that everyone can now go around and say the same in any context they wish. The precedent has now been set that it isn’t a crime to say it as the legal system has decided on it.

Starmer needs to be very careful on how he administers a multi layer system.

ASI

“ The camps there are chaotic, yes. But most people there have already fled war zones and endured trauma. They’re not “invading”—they’re trying to reach safety.”

So you are agreeing that Europe isn’t a safe place to stop and settle down, especially France.

You are in a minority being a supporter of this situation who can never see any wrong when they commit a crime, you defend them knowing they are guilty.

Then the next question is are they migrants or asylum people?

If they are entering without the correct clearance means we should be sending them back then.

Then you say they are escaping to a safe place, so all of Europe is unsafe and they are persecuted on the journey here.

You may be lucky, but where we are it is different. Theft from local shops and supermarkets, drunk in public parks where children are and the list goes on. I have seen clusters of them in Sainsbury’s gathered at the alcohol aisle and that is all they were buying.

We are not in a city or a large town but a semi rural area. Don’t judge the rest of the country by your standards.

Trying to debunk what happened in Calais is denial. Perhaps you need to live elsewhere and see the other side, you might be seeing the truth then.

ASI

“ If they hated us so much, they wouldn't be here”

Below is how these illegal migrants see us, no respect, in fact it is very clear they do hate us, they pull knives on our politicians, throw bottles at them and then pull out a machete. If they come over here and continue to attack the normal people in the street they will find that groups of indigenous people will treat them the same and it will end in a blood bath. And the police, what will they do, nothing apart from arresting our people and letting the knife wielding migrants go free.

I have sympathy with those people outside migrant hotels, they are protecting the rest of us because the police won’t. As for Starmer smashing gangs, show me any evidence he has achieved just one, nope he gives other countries hundreds of millions of pounds and they just laugh at us and put in their back pockets. What a shower Labour is.

Shadow home secretary Chris Philp has said he was pelted with bottles and had a knife pulled on him while speaking to migrants in a camp in northern France.

The Conservative MP posted a video, external on social media discussing the incident with Daily Express journalist Zak Garner-Purkis who has accompanied him on his visit to France.

In the clip, Philp says: "I found it pretty shocking - you said behind me somebody had pulled out some sort of machete and we left pretty quickly."

Mr Garner-Purkis says the man was "swinging it around in the air", adding: "

In the video, the two men are recounting the incident while walking along the side of a road at which point objects can be seen being thrown at them.

Mr Garner-Purkis says "they are throwing bottles at us" and Philp says: "Right, we've got to go.

Philp later posted a message on social media reading: "Just had a knife pulled on us in the new Jungle camp by Dunkirk and then pelted with bottles while trying to speak to migrants."

The shadow minister has said he has been visiting the north coast of France to "find out more about what's happening on the ground with the illegal migration crisis".

In a bid to reduce numbers making the crossing, the Labour government has taken steps to "smash the gangs" that organise crossings including spending £100m to fund 300 National Crime Agency officers to tackle people-smugglers.

ASI

“ On a more personal note, my family on my father's side come from Shirebrook and Mansfield and were generational miners. They didn’t celebrate the closures immediately—many received golden redundancy packages—but years later, they saw the difference. Their health improved. The air was cleaner. The landscape began to recover. They were relieved.”

In that case Labour and the Tories were correct in closing them down at the time and the miners were at fault for striking.

67 - I have just come off a fixed 12 month contract and I was paying just over 22p, and it wasn’t renewable. I am now paying 26p standard rate which is a tad above the cheapest renewable tariff, not what I call a significant difference. I could lock myself in for another 12 months at the same price of about 25.12p but I am just waiting to see if I can get a better deal.

As for ASI, he lied, is a liar and knows he can’t substantiate a lie he made that tariffs for renewable energy is cheaper than most other tariffs.

Don’t you find it embarrassing that you are being asked to reply to a question and choose to ignore it because you know you lied? This displays all the hallmarks of a true leftie who when they lie they are not man enough to say they got it wrong, just like Starmer, well, at least he makes pathetic excuses unlike you. You seem to lie about a lot of the stuff you post here, do you have a problem?

ASI - are you going to answer the question I asked earlier or not? Quick to quote facts when it suits you but gets a bit awkward when you get caught out.

Not answering the question just makes you look stupid. If renewable energy is providing 23% I expect to see a reduced green tariff which you say exists, so do some leg work which you seem to do to try and make others look stupid on this question.

You are now looking stupid, but then that has become abundantly clear in your postings. ASI AKA STP

“Green tariffs are usually the cheapest” i want ASI to tell us the suppliers and the tariff rate per kWh

ASI “ As for renewables, I’ve explained that once built, they have zero marginal cost.”

I guess it all depends what are marginal costs, below is early life costs and the overall costs for later life maintenance can be about 30% of original installation costs.

Wind turbines

1 MW: approximately £68,000 per year

4.26 MW: approximately £251,000 per year

Solar farm

To service a solar farm each year it can cost between 1-3% of initial set up costs. The cost per acre is about £1,740 at 1% or over £5,000 at 3%. If you have an inverter go it is expensive, then panel failure as they get older.

I am not seeing these costs as zero marginal, someone needs to do some real research.

ASI - are you going to answer the question I asked earlier or not? Quick to quote facts when it suits you but gets a bit awkward when you get caught out.

Not answering the question just makes you look stupid. If renewable energy is providing 23% I expect to see a reduced green tariff which you say exists, so do some leg work which you seem to do to try and make others look stupid on this question.

You are now looking stupid, but then that has become abundantly clear in your postings. ASI AKA STP

“Green tariffs are usually the cheapest” i want ASI to tell us the suppliers and the tariff rate per kWh

ASI - are you going to answer the question I asked earlier or not? Quick to quote facts when it suits you but gets a bit awkward when you get caught out.

Not answering the question just makes you look stupid. If renewable energy is providing 23% I expect to see a reduced green tariff which you say exists, so do some leg work which you seem to do to try and make others look stupid on this question.

“Green tariffs are usually the cheapest” i want ASI to tell us the suppliers and the tariff rate per kWh.

ASI - are you going to answer the question I asked earlier or not? Quick to quote facts when it suits you but gets a bit awkward when you get caught out.

Not answering the question just makes you look stupid. If renewable energy is providing 23% I expect to see a reduced green tariff which you say exists, so do some leg work which you seem to do to try and make others look stupid on this question.

“Green tariffs are usually the cheapest” i want ASI to tell us the suppliers and the tariff rate per kWh.

ASI - are you going to answer the question I asked earlier or not? Quick to quote facts when it suits you but gets a bit awkward when you get caught out.

“Green tariffs are usually the cheapest” i want ASI to tell us the suppliers and the tariff rate per kWh.

ASI made a statement that “ Green tariffs are usually the cheapest” i want ASI to tell us the supplier and the tariff rate per kWh.

Then you say “ If you want to challenge renewables, do it with facts”

So I am still waiting for the facts.

ASI made a statement that “ Green tariffs are usually the cheapest” i want ASI to tell us the supplier and the tariff rate per kWh.

Birmingham council removing St George’s flags all over the place as they might distract drivers but more importantly might upset other faiths and foreigners who are allowed to fly their flags.