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yeah, i've noticed that too, even Trustnet is somewhat selective regarding RNS releases, half of the Form 8.5 and 8.3 ones never made it to Trustnet, will go look now

if you take the prices right now, convert your shares to money based on 37p and no trading fee, then calculate the number of Clinigen shares you'd get (oh and that figure will never round completely, so will see if they round up or down, mine comes to .87% of a share so hopefully they round up!) then even take then current bid price as your valuation for them, not including trading fees you'd come up at less than 82p per share, for me, the figures worked out at a valuation of 0.8099 per share, so basically 81p and that is before any sort of fluctuation in their share price, which could of course go up once the realisation sets in that they got a bargain. For me, my holding isn't big enough to want to keep the small number of shares they'd give me, so i'd want out asap to try and realise the full value of the offer..... but, as Beevorma says, they could see a drop as soon as we are able to start selling. It will be interesting to see if the traders try and jump in now to see a small profit come deal finalisation and cause the price to rise close to the offer valuation Fortunately, i'm healthily in the blue on this one, but too feel for those that are sitting with higher averages. I would also be very skeptical if QP. release any sort of RNS claiming "realising shareholder value" when taking this deal, i am of course assuming that they are going to recommend accepting this offer

given that Clin has released theirs, you'd have thought QP. would have had one waiting in the wings to be released at the same time

Agreed robins, and it makes you wonder how long they've had a hand in manipulating the and holding the share price down, thoroughly annoyed at this, they don't even have the decency to offer 50% of the deal in cash, it's all shares which are likely to drop given their currently riding a big high crest

that's disgraceful that it's being accepted

tomorrow will be filled with an air of expectation, because i don't think the RNS will land at 7am, my bet is on a lunchtime release, failing that, it'll be after the market closes at about 16:45

I don't know how many go down to the wire, i suspect more than we'd guess, but still, it does seem like the SP is on a consistent downward slide, almost like someone was already pricing in a withdrawal of interest, or, to make any low-ball offer look goo. I'm almost at the stage where i hope we tell them to sling their hook, because i was more than happy to continue holding before they stuck their beak in, so am more than happy to continue and let the current CEO continue with plan

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Clinigen go their RNS this morning......... a Form 8.3 lol !

As Beevorma mentioned the thought of no offer, i wondered what the outcome of this might be, and possible reasons why..... he speculated, this could be a reason behind today's 5% drop, if news of a withdrawal of interest was leaked.... but would we really drop 5% (or more) because of that, would the market consider their U-turn as a bad thing for us, in that perhaps we weren't as good a prospect as expected? or, could it be the other way around that their interest was turned away, or they are not in a strong enough position to offer market value for us ? what's everyone's thoughts should there be a reversal of interest

yup, i hope i'm wrong too.... other thing is, i'm not sure i want some shares in them, valued at the top end of their historical SP on the coat tails of a big dilution, i'd rather not feel locked in over there when the SP falls

yeah, the thought of no offer is also crossing back and forth across my mind too, but with all the holdings RNSs coming, i'm included to think there will be

yeah, i have to admit, i'm somewhat perplexed by how stagnant this is given what is possible in the next few days.... is it because the market expects the offer to be low ball, sand accepted ? i have this sense we are about to get screwed over, but i hope i'm wrong

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Thanks rylidan. I too am slightly perplexed by all this, it does seem like there's either some undercurrents that are strategically managing the shareprice for their gain, either that, or the institutes don't believe they can put together a strug enough bid either way, they've killed this shareprice dead, and the longer it goes on , the more obvious it seems that it's deliberate, remove this offer completely from the equation, as if it never happened, are you telling me we'd be flat as we are ?

can someone explain that one in layman's terms pls, i was expecting to see it as a buy, not a sell

this is about the 2nd or 3rd i've miss-judged, and the cash i could have used for this sort of purchase is tied up in RMG which is on a downward spiral, and NAH which i went into for the divi and hopefully a small profit, and it promptly fell off a cliff after it's ex-divi date, and never recovered, just continued to fall, at it's current price, the dividend yield is like 15% if they sustain the divi payment amounts and yes, i agree with you these are still a good punt

yeah, a solid looking day, i wanted in before yesterday, but other things conspired to ensure i didnt have the funds available, looks like a solid ex-divi day for sure... bugger ! oh well, perhaps i'll get a chance to get in again later

Because i did/do still believe that the company has taken sufficient steps so far to de-risk themselves from the change in regulations that are likely to affect some of their income, and are taking steps to continue to diversify to achieve the same, and have been since this was rumored to be the changes that might happen. The dividend is good, and likely/hopefully to be sustained, so if i was happy to invest at the previous level, by adding some to my holding and lowering my average considerably, the yield i am seeing from my investment goes up, and as i am likely to continue holding to and possibly beyond the next dividend date, then adding some to my holding is not as crazy as it sounds.

tense two weeks to come, so much speculation and possible scenarios, i'm at a nice average, so for me it's all gravy, but i find myself torn as to whether i want paper in Clinigen or not, given the high price they are at at the moment, is it likely to slide back after the deal goes through, and we finally end up with our shares, or could it potentially keep going from strength to strength? Last time i ad a share in a take over situation, the SP was not held down like this, and i took the option to sell before the deal, difference was negligible at the end of the day, with only a few pounds difference had i held till the end. Either way, scope for so much speculation is excruciating lol