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The current rise seems a decent market reaction to what is a conditional appointment

Whatwhat seems to be contracted to post 3 or more negative one-liner posts a day.

Usually with a new header each time.

A genuine investor with no agenda though ;-)

Simms,

Total volume yesterday was less than 1%. So far today there are 13 reported trades worth less than £10k and yet you wrote yesterday that "we can see today the whole thing is being dumped".

No, we cannot. The evidence (so far) is there to prove that.

I just don't get why posters on these boards always suggest that whenever there is a placing, the shares are automatically dumped in the market to prevent any upward movement.

This is NOT the case.

The whole point of a fund raise vis placing is that the shares are offered to investors (usually already invested or those interested in the sector) who intend to HOLD.

No broker would offer shares in a placing to investors they know will sell immediately.

Come on, of course there is much to be frustrated about here, but the usual BB myths that are always applied to struggling stocks by frustrated investors and portrayed as the truth is just wild and inaccurate

How many of the vociferous naysayers on here are going to sign up for an online, or in person meeting with management?

Maybe they will just keep asking their hypothetical questions and making claims on here (and answering them themselves), rather than actually put them to the horses mouth for a response.

But of course management cannot be trusted and will just lie, so no point in making the effort, eh?

Also, they are shareholder meetings, so some will not qualify, but don't let that stop you from applying as you never know... ;-)

Saluc,

You would think from reading these boards that shorting is rife on AIM/Small cap stocks. It really isn't and there is little to no evidence to show that it is, or is even possible via brokers (especially for PI's).

If a share like this was being shorted, believe me we would know about it via the required declarations and the volume of trading around it. There is no evidence to support this - just look at the daily trading volumes.

Many multiples down too.

Not disagreeing with you PDF, but a lot of the decline is on the back of the totally unwarranted meteoric rise on the back of the sector driven hype, which the company cannot be blamed for other than not taking advantage of it at the prices seen.

Still believe in the tech and the 'new' strategy is the right one, but it will be a long road back to break even for many and will take a lot of wins for the bod to restore some faith in their shareholders and for sentiment to change.

A brave move for those investing at these levels, but not one for averaging down, imo

gla

And if they hadn't released this you would be complaining and asking what they had done with it.

Always looking for the negative

No, it's not market manipulation, but if you read these boards long enough many will try to tell you it is and persuade you that just because something that is a possibility, or not the norm and not 100% explainable, then it is in fact the norm and therefore manipulation. The exception becomes the rule in the eyes of many when it is not the case.

I have been trying to explain the reasons for why this occurs on these boards for more than 6 years (MiFID II and Trade Reporting), but to no avail as people will believe what they want to believe at the end of the day.

Mhow,

That's a fair point in respect of the downstream applications and one that does need clarification

Fairdealer, DYOR.

As stated many times, this arrangement is transparent and has been discussed many times.

You are just agitating and nit-picking for the sake of it.

Why do we need to see the Pranagraph accounts when the price arrangements between TGR and them are well documented?

If you are invested, or looking to invest, DYOR rather than listen to posters on here.

If you are just here to sow doubt and spread fear, then carry on with your loaded questions aimed to discredit the company and promote the alternative.

If you are so concerned about the arrangements with Pranagraph which you consider to be so important to the future of TGR, what are the plans for the new mob with regard to selling/distribution in India? Who will they use and what deal have they struck for sales and utilisation of equipment?

Last post for me on this.

Not wanting to burst your bubble, but the date is only an 'expected' date for completion to occur 'on or around' so is not set in stone and will be subject to change as well as being no guarantee to complete.

Let's just wait for the next update rather than set ourselves up for potential disappointment, if that can be the right word for many of the long term holders already who are heavily down.

I don't really get the obsession with Pranagraph either.

There is a legal requirement in India that TGR ( or any company) cannot sell direct to a consumer, so a 3rd party arrangement is required.

It only applies in India and the % sold to India is known. TGR have detailed this many times as well as the 3rd party arrangement.

The obsession seems to stand with those who wish to spread doubt and suggest the arrangement covers ALL that is sold, which is not the case.

Be unhappy with much that has happened here by all means, but this relationship is not one of the factors, imo.

DYOR

Crober,

On Monday, please can you let me know how many days to go?

Tks ;-)

Not aware anyone is ramping this Gingy.

In fact, this is one of the most factual and genuine boards I have been on in circa 7 years on LSE.

Pretty much everyone knows this is a long term play and fluctuations will be the norm.

We will get rises on good news and hitting targets on time, and we will drop in periods of waiting, and much like I suggested in the last week or so, this would be a good opportunity for trading when these situations arise.

Missed my chance with this recent rise, but there is nothing to be concerned about wrt the SP over the short term. Do you think otherwise?

Hi Saluc,

It was me who received the email reply from Shishir about being more worried about a hostile takeover.

I have kept away from the chat since the announcement as it was clear it would get too emotive.

Some new posters appearing from nowhere with very strong views and clearly trying to influence.

I will keep my watching brief

Not been following trades but the MM's are permitted to late report trades under certain circumstances. If there is a difference this could be reported after hours, or even in the morning, I believe

Can't disagree with the SP comments, but you can't just look at it in isolation. It is too easy to use the past SP as a benchmark but the highs were ridiculous and based on false expectations/sector hype so should be looked at in context and vs the sector.

Arguably, the company is more investable now than it was before the previous massive rise, especially at the SP now. Those invested at much higher prices will of course disagree.

Yes, lots of other things to be unhappy about here, but much of the SP decline is unrelated to actual company performance, poor as that has been.

For the record, my average is 61 having already taken an even bigger hit on my ISA position

More likely to see small jumps as milestones are met, but as a way off producing will probably see any rises followed by dips.

History tells me this will be more of a trading stock in the shorter term, a chance to increase positions ready for production.

At target currently but I may consider using half my holding to trade and look to increase my holding if I do see opportunities, but will evaluate on each news release.

Apologies, wrong board. Not relevant for here

Gingy,

With most shares, the answer to 'What's not to like about this company' may well depend on your entry point.

Not lost all faith, but plenty to be done here and the mgmt need to start delivering to turn the tide of negative sentiment that has been weighing this down for far too long.

Good luck