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If the Saudi and the Qatar wealth funds both want it, then £4b will just be the starting price - no love lost there - it could get a bit silly.

We seemed to have flipped mrc - I am now positive and you are negative.

Maybe to much sentiment pumped into the offer price.
Now a danger of it falling flat.
it begs the question - How do you value sentiment and potential when it contributes so much to the valuation?

Yes, Brent at these levels or just above suits everyone but much higher and you kill the Golden Goose that lays the golden eggs.

Nice that the Black Swan is flying away and that we now have a Golden Goose.

Yesterday's fall was all about the market.

A few investors sold out early on creating the downside and then stop losses were taken out, accounting for the bigger drop.

The problem is that with small caps even a few trades can make a big difference - it has to be set up this way because if it wasn't the SP would never move.

The priority at the moment is to find as many uses for the tech as possible, so R&D expenditure is more important than profits.

I don't now see a future for hydrogen powered cars, and even larger vehicles are a question mark that depends if battery technology can be adapted for use in larger vehicles.

This isn't down to the tech, hydrogen vehicles would be better than electric, simply that electric vehicles have a lead in the market and are cheap to produce - especially small cars with limited range for city driving.

Brent pushing back up towards three month highs again?
Maybe not quite, but its looking strong this morning.

The Chinese have a major advantage over us in the West - they can shut down and isolate Cities, even whole regions of the country, by use of force.
If Covid was ever going to be a countrywide problem for them it would have been at the start of the pandemic, now they are firmly in control and will do what it takes to maintain that control.

After a fairly dismal day today - it does seem that we have to endure adversity before things get better - there are now good signs that Covid numbers are falling, UK holidays are booming and consumer spending is rising - all good news for WTB.

Add to that todays assessment by the IMF and we certainly seemed to have turned the corner and the Black Swan is finally taking flight.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57987091

And this from the IMF has to be great news for British Retail.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57987091

Thank you Kraken.

Romaron has some very strong views and I obviously rubbed him up the wrong way, playing devils advocate at times, but he is certainty very knowledgeable. The problem is that even the Romaron's of this world are eventually going to have to face facts with climate change. It means that we all need to make some very painful decisions and oil is a part of the problem.

Today does validate the strategy of top slicing just to leave profit.
It makes a big drop slightly easier to endure.

Hopefully it won't take too long to regain lost ground.

ITX is a strong hold and I even took the opportunity to buy more today to top up my Mother's holding.

Certainly agree banner that many companies won't make it, but CWR's tech has a major advantage over most of the others, in that it can be adapted for use for so many applications and it is affordable. That makes CWR a far less speculative buy than others and with the SP being at the lower end of its range, now is a good entry point.

Ultimately it will be the news flow that pulls up the SP as the year progresses.

From what we have learnt today Ceres is well placed in the world market to fully capitalise, on what will be by November, a much more focussed effort to combat climate change at COP26 in Glasgow.

Typical overreaction today.
As DD77 says a few issues have been illuminated but nothing has fundamentally changed and progress continues towards profitability with an ever-growing customer base.
A good time to top up or buy in.

Its actually much more significant than that banner.
This is the important bit -

" A new joint development programme has commenced with Weichai Power for a 30kW stationary power module, expanding the scope of the agreement alongside transportation

- Positive progress on the establishment of the joint venture with Weichai Power in China, despite some earlier slippage in timing of the technical programme. The new programme for a stationary power module reinforces the strong working relationship between the two companies and both parties are aiming to form the JV by the end of the 2021"

Steady as she goes - consolidation ahead of a busy H2.

Excellent commercial progress plus positive news on the Weichai partnership - just what investors wanted to hear!!!

There is only one way that Selfridges is going Neil and that's east - Middle East.

mrc
No - it should be full steam ahead now, especially as it looks like Brent has recovered with flying colours from last weeks downturn.

All the adjustments to the SP to accommodate the new issue were done in just a few seconds before trading began this morning - the SP was momentarily down 4.5%.

Now looking good!!!