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Henry, that would be the ultimate switcheroo, IAG buys Easy Jet, lol

Yes, considering. The fact it is even on the table is newe. The lack of denial has kind of proved it is at least under consideration.

Has CS let something out of the bag from a privileged briefing that should have been kept under wraps? IAG had an opportunity to say clearly to CH-aviation there was nothing to the rumour. Credible publication, perfect opportunity.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/107727-iag-mulls-raising-more-capital-from-shareholders-report

Beat you! I am number 1

link Frugazi

Nadine Norris in the cabinet. That's the fireworks for the 5th November sorted out then. Sadly PP is staying. That is bad news for freeing up travel.

Past 7pm, no late RNS. Are we taking bets? Will there be a rights issue or denial one is coming?

I am considering something that cropped up tiday which is bizzare. The share news tried to attribute the decline in sp to Chinese economic data. I find that so far fetched as to be invented. No qualification or explanation is given any where. Was that a pathetic attempt to correct the narrative? Has CS made a booboo and is trying to undo the rumour. Then we have this latest news story which is supposed to have a different narrative from CS, although the quote isn't qualified or even stated in the article text and the web site is not quite a news service.

So will we see a very embarrassing retract from CS which is then published in an IAG RNS?

The plot thickens.....

farend, a whole post of misdirection. Were you taught that or does it come naturally? There are a couple of morons reading this board which fall for it, but vast majority are fully versed on what has been posted before - no matter how many try to press a reset button and continue with a false narrative. Those that do that just show themselves for the fools you are.

yes but....
The IG 'quote' is at odds with the 5 day old Credit Suisse quote which has been repeated in a number of publications, including sharecast, and broadcast on R4. The position is, the RI was in a broker note, and hasn't been denied by the company yet. The IG story and quote has no backup anywhere and looking over the web page looks more like a marketing sheet rather than a proper news outlet with creadability.

You don't 'buy' the rights, you are given an entitlement. If I buy @ 410p, sell @580p I have made a profit. I have made a profit on the rights shares. There is no way out of it. You tried to claim I was talking about being in profit with dilution when there isn't a single reference or indication that THAT was never ever introduced. You messed up Hexam and you are making an even bigger fool out of yourself trying to squirm some clever clever answer back - there isn't one! Show us all where I was talking in terms of dilution. You've turned a simple basic point looking at what might be earned with rights issue shares, and you turn it into a completely unnecessary argument because you got it wrong, didn't read the point, made an erroneous assumption and now carry on digging the hole deeper and deeper and deeper....

SOmething on the radio news about BA flying a green aeroplane to Glasgow. It is the sort of environmental crap corporations think is important so will RNS it, so don't have heart attacks when you see the RNS indicator light up.

firewall for the FT, but I'll take your word for it their analyst reckons only 600. Looking forward to Easy J share buy back then. Oooooohhhhhh it'll make all the differnece.

" I was simply saying that automatically the sp of your existing shares drops when an RI is announced (just as it did with EZJ) and it is this drop that offsets the value of the rights gained."

But what had that to do with anything I was posting? This is the pickle you are in. You went off on some assumption about what was being posted, although there was nothing at all for you to make such assumption, and started mouthing of insults and nastiness as if I had made the mother of all mistakes - and with glee!

The discussion on sp dilution following the issuance of additional shares is a separate discussion. I never even got there, I was solely and exclusively demonstrating what the effect is if the ex rights holds up compared to a heavily discounted share - a basic freebie. It was also a set up to compare to IAG's possible offer, which I expect to be much tighter and examine how the numbers look for that one, which maybe a quite different story.

You went off all headstrong talking about the dilution effect despite that was not the subject. And you continue trying to find a squirm out of it. As I said, you should have acknowledged the point I was making and then sought to expand it to put the ex rights profit in context with the pre announcement price. BUt no, you know it all and had to jump in with your clogs feet first without thinking. And on it goes, splashing around in the puddle desperately trying to spin your narrative to make it look like I a in error and you are correct all the way through.

Admit it, you went straight off on a tangent without stopping to think about what I had actually posted.

"One Number 10 source said: "The PM will today conduct a reshuffle to put in place a strong and united team to build back better from the pandemic..."

'UNITED', huh - good luck Boris, cats in a bag!

where have we been told Easy J only needed 600mill?

no evidence of loading up, looking at the volume graph. If mms were trying to fill a large buy, the price would be stepping up to balance the book for end of day. No evidence of that. sp decline appears to be tending towards a limit.

Paddy, big difference between liquidity and cash. Also Credit Suisse may have forced their hand. You can sell your planes to raise cash. But as an airline, no planes makes for a rather different business plan. Also, as I have posted in detail previously, there was a significant caveat in the the last results that can be quoted about shifting sands. It was in the results for a reason.

paddyboy, mortgages. Oh my, are you middle class or something? When you're off spring have to sell the family pile to cover death duties, you know you've made it and left the little bas.tards with a heap of trouble to sort out. Serves 'em right, lol.

Did I post previously I estimate if there is an IAG RI, there would only be something like a 10% discount? I don't think the fears of mega discounts will happen, I think it will be a modest affair. The biggest problem is in delaying IAG have let the sp fall on speculation so to make an offer tempting it has to be lower than possibly they had planned, and as pointed out earlier by someone else, that means having to issue more shares to achieve the target to be raised. They are in a downward spiral which is only going to get worse until they either scotch the rumour or declare the RI price. Scotching the rumour would take a simple RNS released any time. They haven't. The only conclusion is it is in the pipeline. If there isn't one and they continue to say nothing, they could be in trouble with the FCC for not commenting on an analysts note that lead to significant impact on the sp. The longer they say nothing, the less fine the dividing line becomes. I will now pitch 99% for an RNS one way or the other before the weekend.

Mind you, good day to bury bad news! Get that RI out whilst the headless chickens are running around Westminster fighting over something else. Nobody will notice!!!!

I'm sure, uncle paddy, your reassuring stroking of the head by the fireside will alleviate the stress investors find themselves under as the company continues to fail to make a statement despite the the rumour, lack of retraction of the rumour by the source and derampers forcing the sp down through the London South East discussion board. Perhaps if the board was suspended, we can look forward to the sp returning to 'normal'.

Scr.ew all the IAG sp nonsense, we've got a full blow reshuffle on. You've got a week of tv news climbing on top of each other trying to outdo each other on what the narrative should be and beating each other with their live microphones trying to have the last and dominante word. Forget about your shares for a week, sit back and enjoy the clowns at the Westminster Bubble Circus.