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Now I have business to attend to with the IOP and Engineering council. TP, keep the useless mutts, they are both doubly incontinent so your tractor cab must be a lovely place to be this morning.
To my fans and followers, lol, I will be back!

Just a little word of advice. If you keep flagging every post from a poster as a report, and the moderators keep finding no violation of the posting rules, you are likely to have your account deleted eventually as it looks like you are pursuing a personal vendetta. Just bear that in mind!

Wow, bengi boy. Knock-out stuff. You really know how to sweet talk informative responses, huh, lol!

At least two tests at the moment, fit to fly outbound and 3-5 days after arrival. How that will be arranged is anybody's guess. US is on UK approved list so no fit to fly test returning to the UK. As a proportion of a long haul cost, especially for the left turn seats, that should not have to big an impact, especially if there is no PCR requirement.

Vegas is looking hot, from some unknown date in November onwards.....

"an FDA-authorized vaccine or a vaccine authorised for emergency use by the World Health Organisation"

Is this the CRITICAL bit of news required???? This is form the UK Gov website, so it looks like one major obstacle has been overcome. US to recognise WHO approved list.

Entry rules in response to coronavirus (COVID-19)
Entry to USA
It is not possible for most British nationals to enter the USA if they have been in the UK, Ireland, Schengen zone, Iran, Brazil, China, South Africa or India within the previous 14 days. On 20 September 2021 the US Government announced it would lift travel restrictions starting in November for foreign citizens who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19. We are waiting for further details. British nationals planning to travel to the US from November 2021 onwards should wait for further information to be released by the US Government. We will update Travel Advice concerning entry to USA accordingly.

Those arriving from outside the above areas will need to get a visa or an Electronic System for Travel Authorisation (ESTA) visa waiver to enter or transit the USA as a visitor. You should consult the US State Department website to determine which you will need.

US citizens and permanent residents of the USA, certain specified close family members and certain other limited categories of visas holders (such as UN staff and diplomats) are exempt. They will still be able to enter the USA, subject to normal entry requirements. Further details are on the US Embassy Website.

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) requires that all air passengers arriving to the US from a foreign country get a COVID test no more than 3 days before their flight departs and present a negative result or provide documentation of having recovered from COVID-19 in the past three months to the airline before boarding the flight. If you are fully vaccinated with an FDA-authorized vaccine or a vaccine authorised for emergency use by the World Health Organisation, you should also get a viral test 3 to 5 days after travel. Unvaccinated people should get tested with a viral test 3 to 5 days after travel and self-quarantine for a full 7 days after travel. Those who have recovered from a documented COVID-19 infection within the last 3 months, should follow all requirements and recommendations for fully vaccinated travellers, except you are not required to get a test unless you are symptomatic. In addition, everyone should follow all state and local guidelines. More details are on the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website.

On 21 January 2021 President Biden signed an Executive Order requiring masks to be worn on aircraft, trains, buses and at airports.

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/usa/entry-requirements#entry-rules-in-response-to-coronavirus-covid-19

Advice is to wait!

Dear dear TP, you really have it don't you. Fact check me? Go ahead. What are you smoking going on about owning bulletin boards or such? You are so obtuse now, I think you're an imposter! Turning somebody's best guesses at what might happen next based on information at hand into claims of absolute predictions smacks of utter desperation. Did you rampers expect to railroad the gullible into piling everything in for ypu to profit from? Has that dastardly Big Blue made people think fitst? You and your little group just will not tolerate any opion, analysis or idea that doesn't agree with yours. Something has seriously rattled your cage. Is this your turf? Is someone on your turf? You seem to think access to this board is at your behest. Go to ADVFN if you want to be king of the castle. You seem to have control issues, rather serious ones.

Oh dear TP, what has happened to your rationality? You and your little huddled group are so desperate for everything to be the perfect share. I sense you are aware things are not as perfect as you want. Pointing out that in fact the announcement is somewhat weak as the anticipated time for US travel, is still just that. In fact, possibly the worst of the scenarios being pushed back to the end of November.

You want very much for people to dismiss some rather blinding red flags. I understand the desire to ramp up and carry any susceptible reader along with you. ut what I raise as points of interest to be considered, are identical to the points raised all over the trading rooms. November, as originally estimated, and no amount of rainbows is going to change that.

I am sorry for you, and others. You are blinkered and dazzled at the same time. I can't help.

If that staff memo is real, there was an important detail in there. US opening up END of November. That means it was the worse end of the prediction on when the US might open up.

The detail! The 360!

"The transatlantic market is a key profit generator for the
main European legacy airline groups," said Bernstein analyst
Daniel Roeska.

Pre-pandemic, in 2019, those routes accounted for more than
26% of IAG's revenues, Roeska estimates, over 24% of Lufthansa's
and over 16% of Air France-KLM's. Transatlantic flights
accounted for between 11% and 17% of U.S. airlines passenger
revenues that year.

"26% of IAG's revenues", not as big as some keep trumpeting on here. Enough to make a dent in the finances, but it isn't as high as some having posting over the months. So who is right?

bengi, the sp is not a thing, it is not a pet, it is not sentient, it has no knowledge of thyself.

It is not an 'it'. "it will be seeking support and resistance" Not 'it' won't, 'it' won't be doing anything. The trading price will move according to market forces, or buybacks, or dilutions. That's it. 'It' will not be seeking anything.

It is bull, crap, rubbish and codswallop. It is not even remotely part of any 360, let alone being on a per with. Finished your lollipop yet? Are you staying on your special green chair while you watch Play School on the television bingie?

MOST PEOPLE CALLED YOU OUT BENJI ON WHAT A RIDICULOUS EXERCISE YOUR PLANE COUNTING WAS.

There was no info on pax numbers, no information on whether it was cargo or passenger or an engineering flight simply circling the bloody airport!!!!!!!!!

You the posted the numbers in ascending order omitting any time base. Oh yes, you were well and truly called out for that and got yourself the reputation!

They haven't gone bankrupt! They got some slots in Paris Orle. They got relaxation of travel rules for the UK in time for half-term, although there is a detail on the PCR switch over date outstanding. They are not tapping inverstos for emergency funds. They haven't announce anything else or I'm not aware of anything else being cited as a positive worthy of note for IAG.

Would somebody please explain about benji's goose please.

Oh benji, you really are a card. You try and use grand words and phrases but have no idea what they mean or what context to use them in. You are quite unique. You have earned yourself a lollipop. You can enjoy it on your special little green chair in the corner. Of you go now.

OK LLoyds, you say that saying things less well experienced people might be misled by.... then post ...
"Looking for negatives when they are not there"

Errmmmm... by default any investor DYOR is forever looking for negatives in order to hit the sell button before any damage is done. As for negatives that are not there, I suspect you meant to promote negatives that are not there?

So there is no cash burn?
So furlough is not about to finish end of September?
So the pension payments are not recommencing start of October?
So there is no fuel price issues?
The resumption of transatlantic travel is not the same as anticipated weeks ago?
The company does not need to discuss the finances with the banks?
The company wasn't considering the RI, emergency or otherwise?
Three analysts attending private briefings did not raise the prospect of a RI?
There are no costs associated with ramping up the fleet?
There are no staffing issues after so many left for early retirement?
Everything is fine and dandy?
Less experienced investors should reapply blinkers and 'top up'? [note to any newbie, whenever you hear 'nice little top up there', or 'mm tree shake' you can bet the person making those remarks is as disingenuous as them come and EVERYTHING they say should be questioned and very fully researched.]

There are people here that really don't like me. I get it, I advise caution and 360 research and common sense. That turns the boiler room campaigns on their heads.

errata

"by the end of October the consensus"

should be

by the end of August the consensus

bengi, 70% of CFD retail investors lose money. Not basic stocks and shares traders, CFDs.
https://www.babypips.com/news/almost-80-percent-of-retail-traders-are-unprofitable

So what opinion is biased and misleading? After Biden was supposed to have have the working groups reporting in a short time, by the end of October the consensus was there was no short reporting time and Fucci was estimating not before November if my memory serves me correct. When is the opening of the transatlantic route now due? Well? The only change is an expressed with to relax the rules by the expected date. It is good to have some news on the speculation, but it is not like it has been pulled forward to the start of October or the half-term holidays.

In fact I am beginning to wonder if you and a few others have got your news stories a bit mixed up. There will be no half-term market for IAG over the Atlantic during the half-term schools break up based on the the latest proclamation from the White House. You are confusing the changes to the UK travel rules with the US changes, with a lot of those details unknown. Further more, looking at the damage done to the EU traffic with all the testing required, the hint that there is going to be at least a test 3 days AFTER arriving in the US, most likely a pre-flight outbound and now word on whether the UK will want a pre-flight for the return leg and then a day 2 test back in the UK, don't count your chickens just yet.

Calm down everybody. DO a 360, look at it form different angles, consider all the remaining outstanding issues with furlough and pensions and debt and cash burn and fuel prices and consider just what has changed?

As for this goose laying eggs, wtf was that supposed to mean?

Oh dear bengi, throwing a real hissy fit today. Throwing your toys out your pram, rofl. Are you not being Big Blue's big little man today? If you think that statement form the CEO is the end of the matter and the White House saying it is planning to 'relax' travel rules means the holy grail has suddenly been found and handed over to IAG shareholders, then you are very much in the starry eyed deluded group today. Furlough payments about to end, pension payments about to begin and the expected date free travel could resume is -------- practically what was being talked about in August. In fact, on the surface of it all that has been announced is that the November predicted window is likely now. You need to step back a bit AND GET THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE.

My Easy Js partial rights now sold through about 3% over the rights price. So when the new shares are on the book, that will have been a nice little shimmee.

Keep believing everything is suddenly fixed and there is nothing but rainbows and clear skies ahead. You'll be brought down to earth with a good and proper bump in good time!!!

The ceo said that a range of options were being looked at, but out of that range he could answer market speculation by saying no immediate tapping for emergency funds. There is a whole end of missing info from that. This isn't just a few brokers raising a point, this is the CEO. You do not mention to the city you are in talks with the banks and then not follow that up at some point. The direct point of speculation was answered, but as with any ceo or finance director comments, always look for what isn't there. No if the comment had been no tapping of shareholders or dilution of the stock, then a lot more people, maybe me included, would have been piling in. I'm not taking the gamble. Hope it works for you and there is no equity swap for debt announced and your holding suddenly diluted 20%.

An emergency tapping of shareholders in the near future, that is out of the way. But why did 3 analysts as it is now known come out of their private briefing and conclude BA would most likely need a RI? By IAG's CEO own account a range of options are being considered. Calling someone a nutter for noticing these rather important points is not very constructive. There are still cobwebs to be cleared out. There are still unknowns. I personally don't take notice of broker share price predictions, but if they are accompanied by comments, I do tend consider the validity.