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there is more water proportionally in the air used for combustion than the water content added by the MSAR
MSAR can be used in scrubbers without problems its just cleaner
Way Way back I stated that open loop scrubbers would be banned , this will happen progressively for all areas, There is no real logic to stop pollution going into the air only to put it into the water. Happily MSAR certainly helps reduce soot so at least this part will not require to be subsequently collected and disposed off. closed loop scrubbers are well understood so this will not be a major problem for the industry. HSFO or MSAR
IMHO
So the CEO of a loss making tanker company who probably cant afford scrubbers says he doesn't like them and probably compliant fuel will be cheap anyway and suggests to others not to use scrubbers, what a surprise
Dear Slick
The sentence you quote "The process has been independently validated by the U.S. Department of Energy's Argonne National Labs (www.anl.gov) and the initial mass balance of the plant has also been reviewed and confirmed by global engineering firm Fluor! is in an engineering sense almost completely irrelevant. It is basically saying black is indeed black and white is white, one kilo in = one kilo out. It does not mention that this technology is commercially viable, I would be more interested if for instance Flour were installing this technology on one of their multiple refinery projects but they are not.
Ex employee view on Technavio is interesting
7. The reports produced by Technavio are horrendous. The analysts don’t have the time or skills to research properly. The limited data and insight you see is either made up, painfully illogical, or stolen (in most cases it is stolen and the information is “tweaked” in such a way to ensure Technavio won’t be sued and to make it look like it does original research). Management has no interest in improving the quality of these reports as they refuse to allow for more time or training. Analysts are forced to write a report on a subject they don’t understand in five days. Editors have almost no time to review the analysts’ work (90% of which is in indecipherable English since, as management says, analysts aren’t to be bothered with using proper language). The QC stage is used to flag any information that has been tweaked or outright stolen. The analysts then resent the QC team for doing this because they have no time to do original research. As a result, everyone, at all levels, is unhappy. No one here can win – we are pitted against each other and the company has no interest in remedying this. When QC team members offer to train analysts in order to make the process smoother in the future, we are told that the analysts cannot be taught “because of their sensitive egos.” I’m sorry, but screw their egos and make them learn so that they can do their jobs. I have fought with more than one analyst about putting the word “and” in a list – how can someone who doesn’t understand that lists require the word “and” be employed somewhere they are required to use the English language?
Dear Slick
The Sulfex process is indeed interesting but has also been around some time with no meaningful ( I think none) take up from their target customers ( Refineries ) this must be for a reason?????
De desulphurisation is obviously a hot topic, I think the last time I looked into this the process promised lower costs by running at low temperatures and pressures but when I looked into it the LOW was in comparison to extremely high pressures currently used. The lack of industrial take up would seem to indicate a lack of competitive edge somewhere,
With regards APT
They are of course competitors as they are marketing emulsion fuels based on surfactant technology like our own.
However, They don't have a full size production plant at a refinery, they have not run successful trial on board a full size vessel.hey seem to be just one of a bunch of companies who realise the benefits of emulsion fuels but are trying to jump the queue with no hard development. no industrial partners and no industrial projects.
OK we both agree technavio article is snake oil and ctivated water is just another con that has no chance of working. This supposed company cant make emulsions, don't have any customers and therefore wont be competing with anybody.
Activated water = snake oil
nice try
please don't laugh to much when you watch the video of the special activated water.
Link: https://www.soseiworld.co.jp/www_sp/#sfw_sus_gr
Star Bulk to Equip Entire Fleet with Scrubbers
Athens-based shipping firm Star Bulk Carriers unveiled its intentions to equip its entire fleet with exhaust gas cleaning systems before the January 1, 2020 implementation date of the new IMO sulfur emission cap regulation.
Star Bulk expects average cost, including installation, to be below USD 2 million per vessel. The company has secured debt financing with an average margin of below 3.0% to cover up to around 70% of such cost and expects the remaining amount to be covered from operating cash flow and cash on hand, without raising equity for this purpose.
Additionally, the company has secured contracts with undisclosed shipyards for the installation of such systems, while in approximately 35% of the installations, riding teams are being deployed to carry out the retrofitting works onboard the vessels while at sea, reducing off hire time, as a result of those installations, by 50% to 60%.
A month ago, Star Bulk successfully completed the first scrubber installation at sea.
Viper Obviously you one of those people who invest in a company you hate and deramp from the start. How many questions did you ask at the conference call , I would like to hear it and the response given. Or what was the question somebody else asked that you did not like the answer to perhaps someone can explain it to you
Generally good answers covered everything I needed reassurance with. Still don't trust Maersk but good to hear that QFI are able to progress trials with others. Also rather positive to hear that in reality Maersk don't need additional trials to use MSAR within their fleet, HAVE THEY PLAYED A BLINDER HEAR?