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18m tourists a year to Spain from Britain. 264k to Israel. Doesn’t take a genius...Shapps needs sacking.

IMO obviously, as mentioned in the Telegraph Article above, these have to open. These are the mainstream British Package Holiday destinations that TUI, Jet2, Easyjet Et al, need to survive. It appears in the last 48 hours to me, the major tour operators have said unless these are open by June latest, it’s goodnight Vienna, unless you want to Chuck a few billion to keep us going. Sort your s**t out in other words.

Inside contact confirming Spain and Islands to be on the Green list.

Yep, the 5 UK cruises including the Inaugural have already sold out. Sagas’ prime booking/travelling months is September & October once the kids have gone back which fits in perfectly for when things have hopefully settled down and much more certainty in place as well. GLA.

Why at 14.20 today 5 travel stocks that I watch suddenly shot up at the exact same time? Bizarre this game

Agree - I’m just about to buy in now it’s calmed. All travel stocks following same pattern at moment. I have some in IAG too but 80% Saga. UK sailings already given green light by government and full ready to sail June onwards.

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Everyone will do what they want to do.....my Dad was Financial Director of Next, and NG Bailey. Successful man. I didn’t listen to a word he said, and left school at 16 without a single GCSE. I made my own success. It’s what makes life great! GLA.

Joe - I’ve read a report that the offset of fuel £ being un-used, instead of being around Europe, has been put behind the Champagne Bar by Banbury? Just a rumour? Don’t shoot the messenger!?!?

https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/travel-agents/all-but-one-of-sagas-domestic-cruises-sold-out

Saga. In profit, with 2 new cruise ships, already full for UK itineraries. 70% Insurance company.

Wait for the bottom of the handle

According to the Website, the 2 Fjords Cruises and the Inaugural Cruise have sold out?

With 192 cabins left on the remain 2 UK/Scottish Highlands tours?

We weren’t sure last week wether it was a true representation of availability, as 60 appeared from nowhere when Banbury and I checked and had a feeling they were drip feeding cabins to keep track of numbers.

From experience, the message in red, ‘suggests’ they are sold out, but call up anyway and we’ll sell you something else. Rather than putting a ‘SOLD OUT’ message which defers customers away from the website. IMO. DYOR.

Cool, yeah looks like the 2 Fjords cruises have sold out now.

So this is where the confusion lays. I’ll keep this simple.

The Governments FCO website is for ‘Foreign’ travel including Cruising, which advises totally against, obviously. Which is where everyone has been looking Her is the link.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/cruise-ship-travel.

On there it says - ‘ If you have future cruise travel plans, contact your cruise line, travel operator, or the travel company you booked with, for further advice. For information on cruises in UK waters contact the Department for Transport’ Maritimeengagement@dft.gov.uk.

So UK domestic Cruising is being looked after by Department of Transport not FCO because it’s UK land not ‘Foreign’
The Department of Transport publishes it Global Taskforce report authorising UK Cruising from 17th May. Report link below, page 14.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/977446/Report-of-the-Global-Travel-Taskforce-accessible.pdf.

So as rightly others have called, we fall under indoor hospitality. For 17th May next step.

Banbury - if you are staying in the Savoy on the 17th May, I’ll meet you for a pint, I’ll be in the Travelodge around the corner!

I’m with you both

This is the way I see it.

Cruise operators needs 2/3 months preparation I’d say to get up to full operations again. So behind closed doors they get the nod for UK Cruises. They obviously can’t come out and say that till a proper announcement, in line with other indoor hospitality and all ‘tests’ being met etc etc.

This is now all about ‘Crowd Control’ At every level, not just travel.

Page 14 of the Taskforce Report confirms it - Link below but I have copied and pasted it anyway below. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/977446/Report-of-the-Global-Travel-Taskforce-accessible.pdf

Restart of the cruise sector
32. The first GTT report recognised the significant progress made by the cruise sector over the last year to develop COVID-19 operating procedures. The Department for Transport subsequently published a phased risk-based approach to restarting the cruise sector. Since then, much has changed, including our knowledge, understanding and response to mitigating risks of the virus. The UK government has confirmed that domestic cruises will restart in England no earlier than 17 May. This report sets out a framework for a risk-based approach to managing a safe restart of international travel, underpinned by analytical evidence. Therefore, the UK government will restart international cruises alongside the wider restart of international travel, in line with the “traffic light” system. This will be subject to continued satisfactory evidence from domestic restart as well as successful cruise operations elsewhere in the world. This will be considered at each of the Checkpoint reviews. This is also subject to the signing of a memorandum of understanding between the UK government and industry covering the cost and liabilities of repatriation.
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https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/tourism/international-cruises-to-resume-alongside-wider-travel-restart

Disco - I’d keep off ADVFN now as you said. Some very ill people on it. Stick with us.

https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/global-travel-taskforce-publishes-framework-for-restart