RMG.L Share Chat (RMG)

1. The Board has now completed what it announced several months ago...a change of name.

2. The union HAS been passed by.

3. The union is to be reduced to nothing more than an advisory body...with its union reps reduced down to little more than town-criers.

4. A massive cost cutting programme is coming within all depots...especially within the "Network"; this will mean a huge reduction in SA and pressure overtime...but probably not so much for people in delivery.

5. The Board will keep on using 'Executive Action' to acheive their objectives...although they would much prefer to carry the union with them.

6. The posties must realize that the "good old days" are gone forever. Rightly or wrongly...things WILL change.

7. The posties terms and conditions, even their working hours and shift patterns, will be unrecognizable from present terms in a few short years from now.

8. The posties WON'T win this dispute.

9. This will end very badly for the CWU and its members.

10. Kretinsky WILL buy this company.

If this dispute gets just halfway through the next 19 days strike action...it will by then have already started falling apart. This will not be a very pleasent thing to see firsthand. In fact...it will be bl..dy awful!!

As for splitting GLS from R.M UK? Not yet...they don't need to. Kretinsky is going to be left to do that...when he is good and ready of course.

Scamp
Your certainly reading my posts…could not have put it better…just wish the union would stop ducking the argument you put forward:-)

We had a team briefing today. I have to say the tone was very much that the company want to win us over rather than forcing things on us.
Some things were only relevant to our office and area - start times may change by half an hour, maybe no change at all. This is nothing as the start times have been changing so much in the past couple of years I have to have a picture on my phone to remind me what the times are for each day at the moment. Doesn't help we have people on 30, 35 and 37 hour contracts who all have different start times as well as some duties that are 37 hours no matter which contract you're on.
Sunday working was mentioned. I do Sundays already anyway so nothing of interest to me there. Just surprised me that one postie asked if it meant we'd still be on a five day week. I didn't know anyone thought we'd be going back to six day weeks.
Basically they're saying that it'll still be voluntary but, if not enough come forward, they can force it on people who've started in the last few years as their contracts already include Sundays (I posted about this a few months ago).

A couple of posties were commenting that this is worth striking for so we'll see what happens.

Completely separate from the pay offer though and, on that, we're (nearly) all united. We'll see what the half year figures look like in a month or so. Will be interesting as there'll be a full rundown of everything.

Typo. I meant to say 'isn't worth striking for'

Why are you all on different hourly contracts ?

Along with the over 55's this is probably the biggest problem with the company and why the system is open to abuse, you should all be on salaried annualised hours. All giving people 30, 35 and 37 hour contracts does is allow the over-time system to be used and abused.

Seriously, if the 19 day strike goes ahead there will be no pay rise for anyone, and you will see why come the Novemeber RNS.

If Companies like FED Ex are posting profiting warnings with no striking taking place, what do you really think RMG UK figures will look come November and February. The £758 has been spent, £130 was issued in dividends, £200 million was used for buy backs, GLS purchased Rosenau for £218 million and they probably have £100 million set aside and reserved for employees on top of the 2 % they have already received.

The CWU social media pages are just inciting the workforces of all the companies they represent to strike using very cheap influence and persuasion marketing gimmicks. It's worse than some of the nonsense Trump used to put out.

If you strike for 19 days and beyond whatever pot the company had set-aside for the employees will be gone, plus a whole lot more. I think at that stage, it's more than likely that there will be a lot more standing around doing nothing on the cards for many of you only it will not be outside any IDS offices.

Common sense needs to prevail here.

Teslo - "Why are you all on different hourly contracts ?"

Back in the day we were all on full time contracts - I think 40 hours, maybe 39.
Then RM started employing people as part-timers on 25 hour contracts. This still happens across a lot of the country.
In our office the 25 hour contract proved unfit for purpose so our new starters are on 30 hour contracts.
There was a programme to get the full time contracts down to 35 hours, with no loss of pay. They reduced them by an hour one year to 38 then a couple of years ago, to 37 hours.
As people leave they ask those on 30 hour contracts if they'd like to become full time (37 hours) to cover the work that needs to be done. Nearly everyone takes this.
Now, something strange happened when they moved 11 people in our office to 37 hour contracts. After a while they reduced them back down to 35 hours with no explanation. This happened a few months ago.
I'm on a 30 hour contract but, as I did a rural round which goes out on its own, when I cover that I was automatically moved up to a full timer with anything over 6 hours a day as overtime. For the majority of the time that was based on a 37 hour week, but now it's a 35 hour week, although the new postie that has it as his duty is on a 37 hour week.

If I'm doing anything other than my standard round I ask the managers what time they want me in as I'm happy to do a few hours overtime a week,
And people say we're not flexible!

Regarding your other points - I'd suggest FedEx figures are largely irrelevant to Royal Mail, or any national postal carrier. It's hardly news there's a worldwide near recession on and people with less disposable income buy less shyte on the internet.
Of course Wordwide parcels businesses have things in common with postal carriers but there are also fundamental differences.
It's only those that think all we deliver is parcels who think what happens in one will also happen in the other.

I'm not expecting the figures to be rosy but bear in mind in 2020 RM's half year losses were at £120 million. We'll see where we are in relation to that.

I'm not disagreeing entirely Anger. When I said it'll be interesting to see what the figures are, I meant exactly that. I'll be as interested as anyone else. I'm not prejudging it one way or the other. All parcels and postal carriers have had a good couple of years, hell even Yodel made a profit for the first time in their existence thanks to the pandemic, but now it's unwinding and we're entering the 'new normal'. I don't know what that's gonna look like, only time will tell.

@RGPostie Thanks for the explanation, but if RMG and FED EX are not related then the share price would not have dropped 10 % they day after they delivered their profit warning. Plus look at the share price trend for companies in the postal and courier sector, they have all suffered similar drops over the last 12 months.

This is for other posters on the board who work outside the postal, courier service industry.

In my working history, outside of a couple temp job I undertook I have never worked an hourly contract as a full-time employee, especially during my early working life, when I started my first job as a trainee graduate in an entry level finance position I was paid an annual salary, no-overtime and was working 60-70 hour working weeks because that's is what was expected and that's also what it took to get ahead and noticed by the higher-ups.

Those that did the work and put in the time, were the one's 7-8 times out of 10 (3 out of 10 was due to nepotism or brown nosing.) that were selected for training programs and fast-tracked and moved up the ladder. The rest were also fast-tracked, but instead they were moved out of the door with their P45 attached.

Personally, I just can't get my head around the working culture and UK RMG, but it's clearly very toxic, along with it being ingrained from an era that has long since past.

They also have a much worse attitude towards work than the miners, that Maggie wiped out.

UK RMG, resembles a social club to me.

A toxic one at that where passive-aggression seems the norm, both from the top-down and bottom-up.

To instill that type of culture in both directions, takes decades, and that is what you have at RMG.

Guaranteed on the Monday morning after the strike various Manager's and union reps will have been sorting out all of their lazy " bros " out with overtime to build-up their ever-depleting strike-funds.

"Guaranteed on the Monday morning after the strike various Manager's and union reps will have been sorting out all of their lazy " bros " out with overtime to build-up their ever-depleting strike-funds."

Are these the lazy ones that made shareholders £400m, not so lazy then lol