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Hurtle
You made a comment that the 13 year old boy was an inbred, I haven’t been able to find any information substantiate what you said so I asked you to provide your source, but you haven’t.
My comments were simply to explain that my heart goes out to the boys family, because irrelevant of wether your statement was correct or not they still deserve our sympathy, or don’t you think so ?
You keep safe to.
G.I.T.
From the bbc - 'The first British child known to have died after testing positive for coronavirus was buried earlier.'
That's died after being testing positive, not of. And coronavirus, not covid19.
From the Dept of Health - ' As of 5pm on 2 April, of those hospitalised in the UK who tested positive for coronavirus, 3,605 have sadly died.' That's tested positive for, not died of. There's been more than one occasion when the medical people the government put forward have said they don't know what proportion of deaths are by or with.
I don't need to provide anything to prove anything and any presumptions made are by freewill.
I've made no claims of having more/less information than anyone. If foreign owned or foreign controlled organisations have more info than me, it doesn't follow that they would impart it honestly. I seem to remember one of those organisations having extensive knowledge for many years of a certain Mr Savile and doing quite the opposite.
Stay safe.
MIB - solid post of reality. Yet still I look out my window and see people shooting off and coming back. What is do important? Fools.? They clap at their windows and doors yet quite willingly put them self forward to take up a bed or cause other to do so. Talking to them results in their agreement, then they pop off out again.?Beyond all understanding.
This (if you haven't yet realized it) is deadly serious.
We have lost a couple of nurses and a doctor in my area to this.
A small local hospital had 10 deaths yesterday alone yesterday, god knows what the numbers are like at the big university hospitals!
Funeral director's mortuaries are filling up and funerals are already taking place in growing numbers. I'm now down to my last three next week and once those are done I'm out of it until I'm satisfied its safe to go back. Its been a very dangerous environment to have worked in for the last few weeks.
This is going to be a real 541t storm over the next few weeks, possibly months.
Yes, it does take the elderly and infirm readily but as displayed by the loss of a young boy of 13 and a growing number of others in their 20's and 30's with no apparent underlying causes. It is the most awful death, basically suffocating as your respiratory system fills with a solidifying fluid.
Do not take any chances and don't take it lightly. I do think HM Gov is doing well, but the numbers, in my opinion, are way short of the real death rate.
People are being death registered as COPD, Pneumonia, old age, etc, I would say probably you could add a conservative 10/15% on top IMO.
Anyway, good to see a nice jump in the sp today.
Stay safe people!!!
Hurtle
As you have not provided a source (which I did, with a link to it) I can only presume that you made your comment up.
Also, there was an article on the bbc need a short while ago, in which it was again stated that the poor child didn’t have any underlying health problems, and that not only did he die from Covid-19, but that his family cannot even go to his funeral, because 2 other children have the symptoms.
I suspect that the independent and the bbc have a greater knowledge than you, but in any case my heart goes out to any family that loses a 13 year old child, let alone one that because of the virus could not be with him when he died and now cannot be at his funeral, and, I suspect, that every other decent human being feels the same.
G.I.T - good point, he probably just had a cold (ie-a coronavirus).
Hurtle
Ok, so where did you get your information from then ?
re dreaming low prices ....that's why our pharmaceuticals are the 2nd most expensive in the world 5x more than in INDIA and why chlorinated chicken will be on the menu. Add to this there are food banks in the UK for ordinary citizens . 4th largest economy in the world
Line breeding to your cousin brings out the worst in people, literally. Its done to keep cash and control within the family, absolutely nothing to do with religion or culture. But surprised its even mentioned here because its deemed racist, much like Brexit, the Rotherham Scandal, wearing certain types of clothing and other sacred cows which remain untouchable. B4gger two more racist flags. Thank God at this difficult time we were able to recruit 3rd world staff to the NHS TO BE OUR SAVIOURS WHILST DEPRIVING THEIR OWN STATES OF THEIR EXPERTISE IN THESE DIFFICULT TIMES.Sorry caps lock and laziness in correction
'article says' - meaningless. Media repeats other media which lies like we breath.
For decades we have been importing labour and intelligence whilst consigning our own workforce to the pit of unemployment, benefits, zero working hours contracts and unskilled low paid labour.. The largest group of illiterates leaving schools are white working class boys. Training programmes to give us a stock of skilled workers are almost defunct. The education system is geared to churning out graduates to work at the equivalent of flipping burgers- just too many of them qualifying. Why aspire when there is no hope and an immigrant will undercut your income. The blame doesn't lie with one party , successive govts have repeatedly screwed the uk for their own ends post war. Worst of all Blair opening the gate s to immigration and poodling to the States for his own eventual remuneration and ego. Best Wilson for refusing to join the Vietnam War, but deserves a wooden spoon for attempting to become a state of the USA.
Surely This should be a time for all good men to come together or at least give us a benign dictatorship. The current infighting and point scoring in Labour is truly awful. As for corruption, I give you Baroness Chakrabati, elevated to the House and a position of power for a whitewash report that there was no intention to act on. Being better than Corbyn is not hard . The problem is there is no-one of merit within Labour known to the General Public
The article also says he died, Of, Coronovirus
This article says that the poor 13 year old didn’t have any underlying health problems:-
https://inews.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-uk-youngest-death-person-die-of-covid-19-london-brixton-ismail-mohamed-abdulwahab-2524755
If I remember correctly, the 13 yr old that died with (not of) corona was a victim of consanguinity. 33% of those so inflicted are from less than 2% of the population.
Hurtle, you missed out the ignorance with regard to inbreeding. Consanguinity, as it is called, in Redbridge is the largest cause of infant mortality. There are also the off spring which need care for the same reason.
If we have immigration, which may well be needed, there should be support with education programs and such. My best friends job iinvolves going into houses, and he says nearly all have a child with difficulties, they do not take them outside much as it is a hidden problem. We really should take the effort to educate them.
And then you wake up...smell the roses...and realize people’s greed for cheap th8ngs and bargains will mean that we are stuck with cheap labour from abroad to make things we can buy at low low prices...
Well said. Hopefully once we are through this virus thing we can return to a Britain where we makes stuff rather than buying it from the stinking dog and bat eating Chinese. I hope every western economy invests in and subsidies its home industries to enable us the withdraw from needing China in the future until they learn the meaning of the words truth honesty and civility.
I hope there are thousands of NHS nurses returning home to their families and to return their country's health services to the level they should have been at. They are/were of course very welcome here but they are only here because the UK reduced training places year after year for decades and removed bursaries in addition. Thousands of perfectly qualified native people are denied the careers they worked for and it's time to reverse this back to where it was before the borders were opened wide without any consultation with the public.
Those open borders gave us 1.5 million illegals and their associated crimes, all of which adds to the pressure on the NHS. Add an influx of other people who have a higher use of the NHS due to their inability to lead healthy lives or their lack of healthcare in their home countries due to the brain drain caused by the policies of governments like ours who push the replacement migration agenda.
Labour galloped ahead with the PFI tax payer rip off, Lab & Con are both tools of the globalists.
If other countries had retained their skilled workforce they may well have had less deaths in the current crisis.
And instead of throwing our potential on the scrap heap here, we would have a more efficient workforce of our own. Brexit can lead to improved health services here and abroad.
I'd never vote for any of these muppets again, vote for an alternative, and don't allow the fake news media to smear them out of existence like they always have in the past. The MSM is there to preserve the establishment.
So who did you vote for Filtertips…?
All the supermarkets round here are virtually fully stocked. If you show up early evening, 5 minutes queue to get in, then a pleasure to shop. Just saying that's how it is here locally in Essex
I sure as hell didn’t vote for the nasty party mate.
I know what they are like.
As for the scum, who knows who they voted for, it’s irrelevant they are still scum.
For the first time in more than a month my daughter who has been working flat out with Covid-19 patients has finally managed to get all of the food shopping she needs for a week !
Hooray
I read an article yesterday that I found absolutely disgusting, a nurse who had come off of a 13 hour night shift, went to her Aldi’s in Liverpool and because the NHS staff don’t have to queue she was about to be let in by the security guard when 6 or 7 people in the queue started having a go at her !
She went home in tears !
If I had been the manager of that store I would have banned those people and refused to allow them to shop.
They should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves !
Flaming (or a word that’s similar) awful scum.