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Again individuals making absolute guaranteed statements based on no data....i.e. "In this final week it is not going any further down"..... Well guess that it has. Don't make false promises guys....
Not sure what's happening but £2????
headline "Why the Vodafone share price could smash the Footsie this year" haven't read the article just saw the feed with the headline, That might make it a sell then ........ or another article tomorrow, 5 reasons to sell Vodafone
Okay guys you win... moniman, dont take it to heart. I suppose this bb is mainly Vod shareholders and the majority want a higher SP, and most want it now. So your comments are seen as unwelcome by some. Some of your statements are factulary wrong but others are opinions which differ from the majority. Is the glass half full or half empty with you on the empty side. I like posters who challenged my thinking and currently we agree to disagree on some things. I suppose its a waiting game to see who's picture is more focused. (Checks SP quickly to see if its dropped on the open) Hopefully I will keep adding Vod over time to keep it roughly the same percentage of my PF, using dips along the way
"One of the contributory factors seems to be linked to recent debt downgrade by Moodys". Its not been downgraded yet but as the picture is likely to change then so will the rating, as you would expect. Remember Vodafone stated that they expected a rating of BBB when the deal completes which is lower than linked in the article. Again as you would expect as the deal moves from muted to actual. I agree the risk is higher though and likely to weigh on the SP and as you have highlighted just on of the many factors going forward
Reinvest the divi hold for 30 years minted. Job done
Agree. In this final week it is not going any further down .good dividend.possibly might touch near 200p may be more if any good news from india. Finger cross for tomorrow .
Agreed. This has been a good investment for me 6% consistent dividend over many years and the best one was the divestment of Verizon. Most of my investment is back and now pure gain. The shares may be worth �2.50 as it turns any small time disappointment into a massive positive unlike BT. I am in for the long haul and as Buffet said once you invest in a good company dont dives, keep buying on the dip and accumulate
I'd expect a good week. End of May, a few days left til dividend date
Because that's were I think value is reached on current fundamentals and sentiment etc...plus it's impossible to call an exact bottom....
Why would you want to get it in at �1.65 if it�s heading down?
Just saying that I agree that brokers in the main have certain agendas, i.e. house brokers can be slightly biased to say the least, and despite all the hype other brokers have sells or even strong sells. All in all the saw brokers that were calling this a buy in Feb at 240 are still playing the same tune, but the SP is now 45p lower. This is by no means ab absolute guaranteed bet even at 195 like people have been saying on this board. I hope for you guys the median consensus is correct otherwise I'm going to get in at my 165.
To be honest I don't take too much notice of Broker ratings they all have there own agendas....however what your showing is that most have a buy or above rating so I don't understand what your trying to say.....
Well guys I will leave this to you and the experts. Then we can agree to disagree and let the SP do the talking. It would appear there is disagreement even from our experts....(this is latest research notes from over the pond....May 2018.... BidaskClub lowered shares of Vodafone (NASDAQ:VOD) from a sell rating to a strong sell rating in a research note released on Sunday morning. A number of other equities research analysts have also recently weighed in on VOD. Zacks Investment Research upgraded shares of Vodafone from a strong sell rating to a hold rating in a research note on Saturday. Citigroup cut shares of Vodafone from a buy rating to a neutral rating in a research note on Thursday. Bank of America restated a buy rating on shares of Vodafone in a research note on Wednesday, May 16th. ValuEngine cut shares of Vodafone from a buy rating to a hold rating in a research note on Thursday, May 3rd. Finally, BNP Paribas upgraded shares of Vodafone from a neutral rating to an outperform rating and cut their price objective for the company from $28.67 to $28.56 in a research note on Wednesday, March 7th. Two research analysts have rated the stock with a sell rating, three have assigned a hold rating, nine have assigned a buy rating and one has given a strong buy rating to the stock. The stock presently has a consensus rating of Buy and a consensus price target of $31.76.
moniman's moaning & Moodys getting moody, not to mention the other forces at play ??!! Its all getting clearer now??!!
He really is a moaner. If you here just to come up with pathetic and irrelevant analogies then you need not bother. What’s your game anyway? You must be a shorter to be so patiionate about it falling, either that or you’re a very nice guy who has come to save us from a terrible investment mistake, which from your tone, I highly doubt. BTW a jump at the end is exactly what it was. Your dooms day theory of it going down 60p+ has never been seen, I guess your strategy is much better however.
Well it's all becoming a little clearer as maybe why the SP is on the slide. One of the contributory factors seems to be linked to recent debt downgrade by Moodys...but other forces are at play is also likely. You can hype it up all you like but the SP is going south guys....... https://m.moodys.com/Research.html?docid=PR_383492
moniman by name, moniman by nature, reminds me of char,always moaning, where is char these days? he hasn,t changed his handle,has he? Sorry char, only joking, at least you want the vod sp to rise, so char what do you think of out new poster, the moniman (moaning man)??
Your comments are the most naive that I have ever seen on a board. Going up 1p back to where it started the day is not a jump by any sense of the imagination. What on earth food facts have to do with the SP is simply bizarre. As for your analysis on fastest growing dividends in the market well you have appeared to ignore all of the other facts, i.e. SP has fallen 20% since February despite FTSE hitting all time highs. Debt is at stratospheric levels and almost impossible to bring down without affecting other fundamentals on the balance sheet, unless the issue new shares, but the institutional holders won't agree to that. Good luck with your sophisticated investment strategy.
“You have no idea what’s round the corner”- is like saying you don’t know if you’ll get food poisoning from tonight’s dinner. In other words, it’s not a great line for investment and it’s so generic. The way investors should base their future predictions is on hard facts and historic trends. Saying “something bad might be round the corner” can be applied to every share, in which case you shouldn’t be in the game. I know Vodafone is a solid company, with one of the highest and increasing dividends in the market which rarely falls below £2. In fact before close it jumped quite quickly.
UK q2 GDP is going to be in the 0.5/0.6% range so it going leave the doom Munger's red faced and they are going to have to put their economic models in the dustbin and think again.
You cannot say "you can't go wrong at this price". You have no idea what's round the corner. People on this board have been making the same hype since the SP was in the 230's a couple of months ago. Growth is stagnating, competition is fierce, dividends are barely covered by free cash and debt ratio is at 50% and rising. Management have looked after their own personal interests to the detriment of shareholders if you look at SP performance. This is going lower IMHO. As I mentioned earlier, large funds are locked in and could not dispose of the holdings even if they wanted to, just as well as there would be even more pressure on the SP, even at these levels. I think Vodafone will be around for some time as no one is big enough to take them over, especially with the huge debt on the books. Circa £30billion. One reason management build up huge debts etc is to prevent hostile takeovers. That only happens once the company runs out of excuses for poor management and the SP crashes. Recent history reminds us that no company is to big to get in trouble. Looking on the bright side, I don't think that will happen anytime soon. ADYOR!
Its to do with some of the politics in Europe and the fact that the UK growth rate was only 0.1%, however next week is a bank holiday so on Tuesday I would expect to see a rebound in activity as we go closer to the Divi date. As I said you can't go wrong at these prices.
I'm finding it difficult to fathom why the SP is this low, thought it would be slightly higher with the Divi round the corner
I just bought another whole load, at this price you can't go wrong!!