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The key issue is that the Northern countries have no appetite for bailing out mis-aligned/mis-managed southern economies with their taxpayers' money - hence the illogical stupidity of the whole Euro project.
Now are there any takers for my offer and at what point do I buy more Vodafone shares......????
I would tend to agree, however The Eurozone will do everything possible to stop this one escalating....this is not Greece the Italian economy is the 3rd largest in Europe and god forbid it did go wrong well it does not bare thinking about ....I see that there back at the table trying to form a coalition now slightly better signs I supose However its not over yet....
Well...you're probably right, whatever you do it will always be wrong. If if you bought and sold the same day it would go wrong on both trades. Powerful forces always at play...lol... Well the big question is of course what are our Italian friends going to do. My opinion for what its worth is....market will ride this news out for a few weeks rise a little, all will appear to be fine, just when you think that the worse is over , the markets will go into a blind panic and death spiral...All bets are off until the Italian job is resolved?
Well the sp is up today. Perverse or what? I was thinking about selling my holding which will of course drive the sp up further. I'm thinking that all I need to do then is to collect 1� from everyone who will benefit from my action and I'll be minted. However, like some quantum effect, the market will somehow 'know' about this stratagem and wrong foot me by actually going lower instead. Hah - then I can buy back in lower!
Essentially, no-one can have a clue where the sp will be in any given timescale....
I wouldn't worry too much about the Geo-Political situation anyway Spain and Italy in particular because if Italy did default its game over for the Eurozone and Moniman would not have to be concerned at picking these up for �1.65 because you will be able to buy them for under a �1.00 however I doubt the Eurozone would allow an Italian default so like I said don't worry about it. I do suggest it could be a Tin Hats day Though.....
Well I would imagine another drop today.....but this will not be because of any problems with the company or because our top man has left....this will be because of Geo-political reasons and I'm afraid theres not a lot any of us can do about that....Spain and Italy...if this continues I can see markets dropping much further....GLA
Yes , well let's get back to Vodafone. Is it at £2 40 yet. 7 months to prove me wrong. Theirs reality for you. Danieth quotes undervalued, well others on other BB boards have said this for 4 years + it's never reach the target s of brokers + people on here. Vodafone is worth today's share price + not a penny more.. in the future , who knows.Others quote mm don't like Vodafone well if that's true , then that's reality. As I always say , live in the real world. Were looking at around £ 1 82 ish next week I envisage. Yes , Vodafone is a footsie heavyweight, but as a person said today about GE. Crap happens. Who knows what the next 12 months will bring.
The market is suffering across the board at the moment due to many issues: geo-political wars, trade wars through economic sanctions to name just 2. In the UK, personal debt has hit 2008 levels again and we have a Brexit negotiation to manage at the same time. Financial institutions are running to the continent resulting in a de-rating of the pound, but with personal debt so high the BoE can do little to control inflation through interest rates.
In short, the UK economy is at the start of a major correction in my opinion and for that reason I think companies trading at high PE ratios and a premium to NAV will struggle.
VOD with its global business and strong asset base trading at a discount already is as close to a safe bet as we can get in the current climate in my view.
Hi , it's never me who gets personal, but others , who imo hate anyone having a view they disagree with + imo are peed off cause their shares are plummeting down + try to silence people + try to make them as miserable as they are. Very , very weak people who .surround them selves with yes people + cronies. The difference between me + most other people who post is I try to get people to post , no matter what. Other are dying to stop me + others having their say.i think the word is trolls. Love given it but can't take it , fact.
I agree, but just wondered what your opinion is on vod, I think the sp is under priced, but I am biased, as I hold a lot of shares. �2 plus seems fair value to me? As for the childish comments, all I can ask is we keep to the topic (vodafone) & not get carried away by other issues. I don't think me, being the banker, or compass are control freaks,trying to silence people, do you?? Basically char just needs to calm down & get that ( life is so unfair) chip off his shoulder.
Boring, well that's your opinion. You just don't like other having their say. Your a typical control freak who trys to silence people who's views they don't subscribe too. As to being the site policeman, I don't recall killing hundreds of people in my custody. Hillsbrough comes to mind. Or lying in court on a daily basis. Birmingham pub bombings comes to mind.or covering up the truth from the British public. Or don't recall being institution ally radiation like the police in the Stephen Lawrence + scores of other cases. You just like people you can't silence. Well tough. Your opinion is like mine + ever other posts, yet you try to make out your some authority. Your just a very weak bully + control freak. If you find me boring then block me. You'll never silence me. Fact. Fellow borders don't be intimidated by these small minded bullies + carry on posting your views. If only to per off compass. Hahaha.
now char333 is the board policeman. These posts add no value either. You're boring.
Compass007, that's an interesting article making a strong investment case on fundamentals:
"The impact of its investment on earnings growth is set to be significant, with net profit forecast to rise by 22% in the next financial year. This puts the stock on a price-to-earnings growth (PEG) ratio of just 0.9, which suggests that it offers a wide margin of safety. INCOME POTENTIAL As well as its capital growth."
Then there's NAV at 220p too as we've highlighted before.
On the basis of this fundamental analysis, I rate VOD a strong buy targeting 205p+ within 3 months with a divi on top.
You really do make me laugh, what has aston villa got to do with anything. This is the vodafone forum, not some pub near aston villa!! By the way, my name is danielh. not danieth. You really do need to learn how to spell?!
hi guys , not sure I agree with moniman about � 1 65 , but it surely gonna be a fall down to levels not seen since 2008 banking crisis levels. someone trys to speak for everyone on here by saying he adds no value to this site. how does he know what other peoples values are. please guys quote for yourself , not others. we all have our own opinions , thanks. dear danieth , remember this . he who laughs last, laughs longer. you yourself have seen the near certainty of my predictions , have you not . always stating im negative , yet in the main they come to fruition , fact . not negative , but realism imo. I don't see anyone arguing with my � 2 40 prediction now. be careful what you laugh at . as ive told numerous aston villa fans this week. now their reality is upon them. gla + atb, were gonna need some luck guys . when November comes if the divi holds up, then were out of choppy waters imo.
Some times shares can get you like that....at one point it did not matter which of my shares I sold they went up the day I sold them and the ones I bought went down the same day I bought it can be very frustrating but seriously if its concerning you that much get out....its that simple, unfortunately I can't say that they won't go up the day you do....Good Luck....whatever you choose