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fleccy - I would tend to agree with you on this.
I mean just look how they pumped the likes of FXT and other nonsense into the stratosphere. Companies with no assets whatsoever. Just selling hopium to the masses, drummed up by market makers and early "game" makers.
Just look at how the markets punished the oilies back in 2020 without any substance whatsoever. Then again, it creates a fantastic opportunity for those who know what products and services actually sell in the real world.
I fully agree that the current treatment of the telcos appears to be orchestrated, but have to say that governments play a huge part in this also. The spectrum auction process is scam in my opinion.
Why is it only applied to telcos? Why not i.e. the drug industry? Why have it in the first place? Allow the players to resolve it through new innovations etc.
Why is consolidation of telcos bad? If it's bad, how come they are allowing the likes of Google to laugh all the way to the bank although they have clearly created a monopoloy? How come US companies are allowed to dominated the cloud market? The list goes on and on and on.
In summary, double standard and window dressing in one sector and the opposite in another.
Just topped up to bring my average down further.
There is plenty of opportunity with this share.
Dan,
When you invest an amount say £250.month into a share save you get an option to buy at a price 20% less than the price of the shares when the scheme starts. The lower the share price the more shares you get for you investment. The scheme has a "start date" so it makes sense for some to wish the shares to keep falling before they embark on the schemes official start date with the initial 20% discount.
"Correct when you look at the markets as a whole and then see company's like this slowly going one way its clear what the markets think. Confidence is gone and something needs to happen for this to be restored."
The market's negative treatment of the Telecom sector is unwarranted in my opinion, and as I've said previously it's contradicted by the amount of private equity ploughed into mast infrastructure and FTTP. I think many big market players have intentionally pushed down Telecom sector stocks, as an attempt to weaken and test their balance sheets; With some companies, it appears to be paying off, like Telecom Italia looking at merging its fixed line business with Open Fiber, or Vodafone spinning off Vantage and selling half to private equity. In Vodafone's case, they appear to be moving more toward partnerships, in many of their operating markets anyway, like the attempt for a 3/Vodafone merger in the UK, or VodafoneZiggo in the Netherlands. Since it appears the market is playing a long game with Telecom stocks, the best thing Telecom companies can do is move forward with their business plans and ignore the market games.
Correct when you look at the markets as a whole and then see company's like this slowly going one way its clear what the markets think. Confidence is gone and something needs to happen for this to be restored.
"Well the ftse is in positive territory nicely this morning - I think the Vodafone share price yet again shows what the markets think ."
You should look at the sector movement as a whole, not the index, before you pass judgement on an individual stock movement within a sector.
Well the ftse is in positive territory nicely this morning - I think the Vodafone share price yet again shows what the markets think .
Good news for the SP?
Early debt repayment ' to optimize and extend the average maturity of the Company's debt'
DenFos. How can these have hit an all time low when they were less than 91p about a week ago? I hope you are not another moaning vod/ex vod employee. (No disrespect to the ex vod duo on here). Are you anti share buy schemes. Obviously if you are in a share buy scheme, you want the price to rise, not fall, so you make no sense with saying the lower the better. Just ask Mikey, I am sure he would disagree with you. It looks though we are in the silly season, with people talking nonsense, so come on, give it a break please?
Rob. Not if he had brown stain's on them (scared) (I didn't realise he hadn't bought any vod shares), so not as daft as me then? Tempting fate with that comment though? No G/Snipe. I was being sarcastic/ironic.
No surprise that these have hit yet another all-time low. Voda management/employees can now buy these for around 75p in their share-buy scheme….so the lower the better…..
Dan, would you be impressed if he did lol
not sure he is invested here, he said he was too scared to buy here
jrise. Slight Correction*. GutterSnipe. From your post I infer. You did not go to the right school. You don't know the right people. You don't talk impressively . & you wear joggers*. He wears joggers? Does he wear designer pants though?
Rob, what I expect, is for posters not to come on here saying all management are thick. Totally pointless. I think we all know by now Guttersnipe is an idiot, so time to move on. This is the vodafone share forum, not a forum for Anti establishment, anti management, anti capitalistic, anarchists. He is entitled to his opinion, but this is the wrong forum, Why is he invested in vodafone in the 1st place when he clearly has not got a clue?
GutterSnipe. You are clearly not quite with it. I think you will find that velo was referring to an Ironic joke by Warren Buffet. Warren Buffet is no Guttersnipe.
not sure what you guys are expecting here, we all know the recent results were not good, for me I'm just hoping that's priced in with the current sp and it doesn't drop much further, we reached 139.18 10 Feb 2022 so hoping we will see a decent rise in sp sometime next year
what are you guys thinking and hoping to get out of this share
and it would be a big help if you lot could give the insults a rest, or you may find you will be logging in to a blank screen once you have p*ssed everyone off
cheers
Velo - Yes, a lot of these guys are just are just i d i o t s. Just a sham. Yet a lot of people really believe in them.
'It went down a minuscule amount.'
£ weakened against € today? Good for the DIV 'receivable' in theory as that went up a miniscule amount.
I noticed the exchange rate difference on todays wine import order
Or from the experience of Warren Buffett on how he puts it:
" “I try to invest in businesses that are so wonderful that an idiot can run them. Because sooner or later, one will.”
:)
jrlse - Almost correct except for the cheap suit. Obviously i don't own a suit. I wear joggers.
Closing Sp 2nd Dec
Mikeyh 97p
Sigma 85p
Velo 91p
Aspers 95.8p
Wm2020 92.75p
Newsid 96.8p
Vodger 97.5p
Guttersnipe 89p
Come on Mikey, down .25p is hardly the Wall street crash. 97p ere we go? It's about time you won? Good luck mate.
Sorry jrise. I wrote my posts before I got to read yours. Cheers mate, good post. He also needs to fix his O key, as it keeps jamming.
Guttersnipe definition. A scruffy & badly behaved child, who spends most of there time on the street. Says it all.
It went down a minuscule amount. It still held well in my book, given the performance of other companies today