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Wow, so Vodafone is doomed, how silly of me to buy 29000 shares recently. I believe half year results will be better than expected, dividend will be maintained or rising, and my price point gives me a yield of 9%. Also revenues strong and why not a dividend cover of 1.0 just yet, it's getting there. If you think this share is bad, then I know nothing about investing. However that's not the case. Vodafone has reached its the bottom of the curve I believe. This is mostly about competition in this sector, and with the sale of Verizon. Vodafone has more than enough to safely integrate its many businesses and increase earnings. Wish all my holdings were this bad.
Thanks. we may well see close to 152, but certainly a VG chance of a better day, all things being equal on the macro-level. UK futures up almost 30 pts & most global indexes finished strongly.
Tuesday remains uncertain. I'd be surprised if a lot of potential negatives aren't priced in, but you can never be 100% sure with sentiment. Much also depends on aspects like forward guidance. If that was positive, at least closer circa 160 seems doable. But next Tuesday's results should at least clarify current uncertainties hanging over this. - Regards.
152p tomorrow. 154/155 Friday Monday. 165p Tues! Im 47.3% confident on them prices.
Volume of 12 million in USA is similar to 120 million here. Itv finished on 150 voda 147.8 remember I put on both at 148.2 just out of curiosity to show how much we are suffering in comparison
As I say, I don't get involved in that. I defend anyone's right to post on markets & I won't join in with some of the harsh ad hominem. I know that LC is valued by a number of others for his market views.
Tellytubby or psycho nutcase? Hmmm. Which one seems more abusive & hate-flilled?
FWIW, I personally wouldn’t refer to anyone as a teletubby, turkey, or anything derogatory. Not my style. Seems not rhe best approach most of the time. Certainly not when losses mount. But anyone who’s read financial books knows that the market often refers to “smart money” & “dumb money”. Latter is similar & probably describes me here.
It really does no harm. We all make mistimed buys & hope to learn from our errors. I may be "dumb money" (past successful trades don't count), but no-one dies, no-one gets injured, & no-one crystallises losses unless they choose to sell at loss. That's what matters.
Re VOD: better finish in US tonight & volume higher than average. 12.45m doesn't seem much, but it's highest in US for some 2 months.
Velo's post has substance, though no-one can outguess what the market will do longer-term & certainly not before key results next wekk (13/11. Really could go either way. Though any nasty surprises next week would derail current TA & see this come under further pressure, from what we know there's support at circa 142+, resistance at circa 154. Will be disappointing to see support lost. Either way, it doesn't change my poor position here. Even if 160 seen, I'll stay for higher targets even if I sit another 12+ months. - GL.
You are going to pay us the next divi if you don’t close your short trades soon!
I track income / value funds and they are all buying VOD. Investing is so simple, trying to be smart like LC turns you into a fool and a loser in the long run. Remember, 80% of leveraged retail traders lose all their money and end up owing their brokers! If you don’t like VOD then buy BT or something else just stop crying.
What you fail to understand is that last call has been banned many times, & if he feels he should be allowed back on this forum, he can appeal, but by faking his I.D to come back is a mockery of the rules of this forum. But as you say you don't know about his early posts, so with respect you clearly are not in a position to defend him. As for your point that there are people far more disturbed than L.C, I am sure you are right, but they are not posting on this forum, calling us all telly tubbies. By your stance you just show your lack of understanding. By the way, have you met some seriously disturbed people re your comment,& if so perhaps you can help L.C. before it is too late. As I said, do you work in that line?
Asset manager comments - VOD is 8.4% of the fund up from 4.5% in April.
“Vodafone -5.2% cost us 35bps with the shares remaining friendless. The conclusion of the Italian spectrum auction does not seem to have changed the prevailing anxiety around near term dividend cover, and there remains a news vacuum with regard to the Liberty deal, still to complete, which looked very positive for free cash flow.”
They only have to cut divi by 35% to keep with x3 debt levels. But they dont have to cut any this year.
You gonna keep paying me juicy divi......never selling since the income is enough. 50% reduction in divi will still be close to 5% yield. You are the fool here.... ......don’t see any hedgefunds shorting VOD.
I'd gone last night by that time LC.
But I think you're wandering there a bit - February?
1) Vod peaked at the end of the first week in January this year - not February. It was already retracing noticebly after that first week in January, so not sure why you're referencing Februrary.
2) No, I didn't short it, as I don't think I was even aware of VOD retracing then. I was busy on other concerns. Been in and out of VOD twice over recent years, so it was relegated to a permanent watchlist stock.
3) Novemeber? As all trend lines on VOD are still, downtrending, I'm looking for a breech in the dam wall for a possible break to the upside. None are presently visible to me, so the truth is, the SP is caught in a downtrend, but, those trendlines are narrowing quite fast. To call it's next move is a prediction, and I'm a trend follower, I wait, I follow when it's 'safe' or safer'.
However should you get your wish, I'm of the opinion you could get get hung up on 237-ish down to 231/233 area Supports, Fibbo's all converging for one mass junction. Beautiful area of uber strength. If the SP ever gets past the 130's then 125-ish is the last meaniungful support and if that goes I'm done and will just sit things out.
I'll be in shock if this goes down past that 130's area. It's the last Fibbo + with natural supports at a penny or so away nearby If thete's an almighty fightback by VOD - it would be from that 230/237-ish area. It's all so close to 240/250 supports I'm not sure which could 'do it'.
I personally, in my own amatuer way, don't think the SP is going to dive like a submarine from here - too much support and Fibbo's all converging. That's where you'll get nailed if 240's give way. I still don't know what to expect for November - I'll let the trend inform me, not second guess it.
Not keen on the new CEO, I don't rate him. Think he's a cry-baby wuss not a leader of men, so I have a somewhat schizophrenic view on VOD. A lot of quality ratio metrics in the balance sheet and a big nasty. Think I'm almost through with the big nasty, and if so, there's such good metrics that are being overlooked it probably only leaves debt as a worry. (Might get time to post a piece on those metric/ratio goodies).You're not a propa FTSE company unless you have debt worries, are you? LOL!
Hi Hi I know this will trade above 200p again sometime in the future. I didnt want this many for that long. I've put alot in here. Thinking the world was stupid not buying this at 160s. Obviously the world wasn't I was given my time frame! Now I have to push the time frame way further
Hi h. Them recovered doesnt do much here. Unless this hits 155p by friday I think the only thing thatl change our course is results. And forward thinking from nick read. With indices trading so high we will get a pity rise! Dont want pity rises to 150!! Want proper 3-4% rises!
I hope you’ve sold loads of VOD spreadbets / CFDs, make all the cash you can! I am buying VOD till I run out of cash.
I hope you’ve sold loads of VOD spreadbets / CFDs, make all the cash you can! I am buying VOD till I run out of cash.
Dow and S&P have recovered big time, Americans just keep buying unlike us here that keep moaning! Buy more VOD......don’t trade it, this could do a Glencore! Remember they said GLEN had too much debt, it even cut divi and raised cash.........more than 300% rally from low within 2 years.
With respect, you obviously have longer history with some outstanding issues with LC. But YOUR history has nothing to do with me or some others. Some agree with you. Others have stated similar to me. They find value in his market opinions, even if just mostly reading.
Yes, LC has his own style. Rapid posting. The substance on markets I like & appreciate. As mentioned, the style could be more diplomatic at times. But I respect anyone who has garnered knowledge about this game & is prepared to court unpopularity for stating how he sees a stock or markets.
I don't subscribe to any personal abuse, but from what I see he's also been attacked on a personal level. I defend his right to post about markets, as for anyone else.
Totally reject your ad hominem attacks on him, as I would about anyone else. If that upsets some, so be it, but I'm no-one to judge those I've never met personally merely because of a highly energetic, occasionally abrasive posting
style. - GL.
PS: If you really think LC is as you say, I kindly suggest that perhaps you've never met some seriously disturbed people. LC doesn't come anywhere near that level.
No way, the crazy guy has managed to convince JackD..............god help us all. VOD is worth at least £70 billion pounds. We all know how big VOD is and how much money we got from Verizon stake.
Voda does usually 13p rise on average in november. Thats going over last 15 years. Started at 150p. So think we will see 163p sometime this month. Whether it can hold it is another matter.
159-162p. There you go.
VOD is a BUY and it doesn’t matter if it falls more, LC is purely a speculative spread better who thinks he’s smart. 80% of spreadbetters lose money and I bet LC is a loser. The real money makers are investors who can make 20% - 50% return yearly on their portfolio. VOD will shine in 2019 or 2020 definitely but that doesn’t mean sell out now!
But it’s only natural most are buys & inevitably there’s strong defensiveness about those buys. I too have a long bias here, even if it's subliminal.
But also as I’ve been in similar holes before where i've messed up. So I know from experience that allowing heart to rule mind when almost everything goes against a stock on very little news often leads to selling at loss near bottoms, even if I concede you may well be right here & we may go lower. But as stated, I’m braced for that, though far from 100% expecting it.
Detraction is sometimes okay, but not when quality posters keep getting banned. To me that just seems a shame when it's easily avoidable. - ATB anyway.
Why doesn't L.C. try another tack, are you joking. It's because he is a nut case, what part of that don't you get? Many have tried to get him to talk in a coherent way to express his dubious talents but failed, why do you think you can get through to him. Do you work in that line perhaps? If so, why don't you suggest he gets help for his obvious mental health problems?