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More chance of me entering a Time Machine and drilling pam Anderson on the beach in her prime while her red costumed girl friends tong my balls … than there is of a favourable bid for vod.
12% + yield is very tasty as rates come down, the SP will recover or be taken over.
It's actually quite simple, if Vodafone does not go bust there is almost 100% chance to get a good return on investment and stock price eventually going well above 100p
Vod closing Sp 15th Dec 64.72p
Davef 65p winner
KiwiTwo 67.6p
Tars 83.14p
Jax05 64.01p
Justfencing 87.2p
Talatum 71.5p
SteveBT 72p
Doyen Dan 70p
Robleo 70p
Exil 70.5p
Newsid 66.8p
Roofer 69.95p
Enjoy your weekend..atb
Jax said Vodafone is going bust on more than one occasion, I'd like to ask him what that view is based on? The decline in the share price is irrelevant to the viability of the company, and the interest on the debt is more than manageable at around €1 Billion; As long as they have enough cash to cover bond repayments at maturity, they wouldn't necessarily need to borrow more should they choose not to. The dividend payouts could be stopped or reduced if required, and used to support debt repayments or capex, so come on Jax tell us what evidence do you have that Vodafone will go bust? We're dying to know what we don't already.
Jax05. The vast majority of British customers just want cheap rates and fast data and never ring customer services, which is pretty much what your averaging African user wants. Vodafone coverage is one of the best. There problem is economies of scale mean they desperately need this merger to happen. If not they will slowly wind down their UK business and ultimately sell there assets to the duopoly. Maybe this is what the Westminster lobbyist want and maybe this will happen, but it sure ain't a good advertisement for UK plc. 50 years of failure and counting, it's just now people are waking up to the fact that Britain is going bankrupt
Bugger not more bad news fleccy
Things appear to be moving in Italy.
https://www.lse.co.uk/news/VOD/iliad-wants-to-finalise-jv-proposal-for-vodafone-italy-by-end-january-sources-d5mdle8ob1nw1be.html
Dan I'm no physicist, but I do understand what a metaphor is. I'm not sure why you choose to have a go when I'm pointing out that a paper loss isn't a capital loss, it's just a missed opportunity. When I made my recent £20,000 Vodafone purchase I knew that the price may dip into the 60's, but I decided to take the chance anyway. I don't agonise about the fact I could have got in cheaper, because I was happy with the price I paid and believe that my Vodafone investment will eventually come good. One of the reasons I pick companies like Vodafone is due to the assets held by the company, which are attractive and have real value. I'm as confident as I can be that VOD wont go bust and that any takeover, should it happen, would exceed my average cost per share currently standing at 127p, it was 146p before my last top up; Should I decide to reinvest every single dividend between now and the end of the next Financial Year, into Vodafone, then I'll drop the average down to 109p, I'm not saying I'll definitely do that but it's an option that has crossed my mind. I don't think I'm "away with the fairies", I invest knowing prices could go down so I deal with it by reinvesting the dividends to achieve portfolio growth by other means.
Stops you right in your tracks SS
Have a read of the online customer reviews - sobering negativity - used Vod as a customer in my younger years but never again completely useless.
The only growth is from the third world who are just pleased to move away from two cans and a piece of string
It's also listed on the NASDAQ where it generally performs even worse!
Vodafone is by no means the only company struggling in the FTSE at the moment. Looking at the relative growth in the S&P, DOW and DAX against FTSE100, 250, 350, All share, it is obvious money is flowing out of London markets and into S&P, DOW and DAX, amongst others. The government have to wake up to the fact that either they slash corporation tax and employment costs (I've tear up the rule book) or there won't be any profitable companies left from which to tax and the Argentinian downward spiral isn't that far away. Sadly the current conservative government know they are out next year and won't do anything to even try and fix things before then, meaning labour will get in and make the situation worse. I give the country less than 10 years before it's begging for imf bailout, and half the international companies on the FTSE have listed elsewhere. Vodafone should definitely be looking to do so, especially if the government block the merger.
Looks like Meshtrader either works for Vodafone or probably is MDV who is chatting here to clear her back.. LOL..LOL!
Mesh it’s not the market
Vod is the biggest telecom loser by a country mile
This is going bust
"What’s your counter then Mesh
The market is talking"
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You are right, the "market" is talking and I am grateful for it, otherwise I would have had to pay 160+ for each share.
The market can stay insane a lot longer than one can imagine, but in the meantime, I will grab the div and top up.
Super-shag-nasty share
Cracking phrase - take the share off and MDV would be one of those
Trying to use super-symmetry to describe VOD, lol, no you don t need anything as complex as that, its just a super-shag-nasty share lol (and yeah i hold some). I sold some at loss and piled it in RR. – recoup my losses
What’s your counter then Mesh
The market is talking
We’ll find the right fones 4 u
Jax.."MDV is Dianne Abbott" Last time I looked MDV was a slighly tanned, women of average build, & probaby a tory suporter, not a black, large women, labour suporter? I don't know if need to go to spec savers, or your doctor. Try both!
Dan, have you had any thoughts about selling any off
"Do not forget we’re in a general market bull trend at the moment if that turns Vod is bust bankrupt insolvent doomed
Insolvency companies will be licking their lips"
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You are funny and take it as a pun.
Fleccy. There is a saying that if your pretend to understand quantum physics, then you don't understand quantum physics. Is Schroders cat dead or alive, or both? Do you pretend to understand quantum physics? You do seem to be away with the fairies at times fleccy. If you stop observing the fall in the vod sp, does that mean it isn't real? Let's just hope that Vod's cat isn't dead.
That's a bit exreme, they are still printing money and Vod's services might as well be considered utilities in 2023. Worst case is a dividend cut/suspension and maybe a few asset sales, and the balance sheet would right itself in short order.
Of course news of a dividend cut will likely send SP downward quickly.
MDV is Dianne Abbott
Do not forget we’re in a general market bull trend at the moment if that turns Vod is bust bankrupt insolvent doomed
Insolvency companies will be licking their lips
Evidently with no knowledge of either other than their respective public communication.
One thing that sticks out, Tufan never mentions customers and only keen to slash costs, while MDV is low key and emphasises customer first strategy while improving operational efficiency.
Time will tell which one of these two will outlast the other.