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Roofer, the way this has been trading today with a 50m buy, surely it must open in the 71p range tomorrow?
Someone bullish , huge buy just gone through 50m buy , source cnbc rolling captions
Oops, Sorry I meant I am not bullying anybody. Good luck to everybody on here.
Mikey. It was meant as a joke, & I can assure you I am bullying anybody, so get over it.
My dad is invested in CPX despite my warnings. But yes, they have a high R&D cost that is killing there profit / cash burn, even though they get a government rebate back its still a net drag on performance, and they can't even protect there patents, losing a case in the US (nearly 25% of there demand). So if this guy is in there then we can take his advice with a pinch of salt
RR is riding on pure fluff right now. Sure money was sub 1.00.
Tufan is busy at work stripping the company by cutting costs left and right which will soon show up in quality issues and less happy customers.
PS BP did that with the rigs in gulf of Mexico.
And CPX's Income statement looks pretty dire too.
Mark, good luck buying RR at the current price, after it's just risen by 187% in the last year, what could possibly go wrong buying in now?
U know and I know every one on this page is losing money on this share. Number one their is to much competition in this sector and I feel vodafone is worth no more then 0.50 a share and this time next year it will have hit or be in and around that price, not saying its cheap at the price it is now. but they need to go back to basics like RR did and moved for a 6-1 split at in and around 0.40 a share and now 3.00. The management needs new blood and they cant keep the dividend the same, it doest make since it being so high. thats because dinosaurs run the company and dinosaurs buy the stock. in 2025 it will start showing better profits because of the Africa market and debt coming down. when the debt is down more, then comes the take over, but i feel it will be 4 - 5 years before a take over.
Connor Knows Best!
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Here's a nice easy chart for you Dan
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Time to take profits maybe
Or cut losses
I holding for the next TU - it’s a 50/50
No hint of bullying at all Daniel - just a question - not like your bullying of people on here constantly
For every share that was sold 2 shares were brought, maybe shares will start heading north.
Mikey. Much as I am no fan of jax, he is only doing what you were doing a year or so ago. Be careful, he might accuse you of bullying him, as you did back then. But it is nice to see that you are possitive about vod nowdays. good day today, back in the 70's
Jax - are you ok - getting worried as you havnt posted today - oh yea vodafone finished up so you wouldnt would you ?
Fleccy. I did say with respect, & thank you for your advice, but I will give it a miss, as you can't seem to make any sense from your own charts, how do you expect me to? But good luck though & each to there own!
I don't care Dan stop being a d ick, or taking your obvious frustration out on others making an effort to understand their investment, and stop telling others what to do. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean others wont have some input or useful opinions. I'd argue that it's important to try and understand Vodafone's financial position so that we can respond correctly to negative comments.
Dan there are plenty of night school courses where you could learn to read basic charts, maybe you should take some. Belief alone and thinking positively does nothing to help you understand your investment, or help you make reasoned decisions in relation to them.
Fleccy. I respectfully suggest that nobody on here can make any sense of your spreadsheet, charts bla bla bla. O.C.D. comes to mind?! You need to untie yourself! Be possitive, not obsessive!
On my 15:23 post I mentioned the discrepancy between my calculation for the total Bond debt and the figure reported by Vodafone in their H1 figures. I had a look back through the RNS's after remembering something being mentioned previously and found this:
https://www.londonstockexchange.com/news-article/VOD/vodafone-group-plc-announces-tender-offers/15970155
"Vodafone Group Plc (the "Company") announces today invitations to holders of (a) its outstanding €2,000,000,000 Capital Securities due 2079 (ISIN: XS1888179477) and (b) its outstanding U.S.$1,300,000,000 Capital Securities due 2078 (ISIN: XS1888180640) (together, the "Securities") to tender their Securities for purchase by the Company for cash (each such invitation, an "Offer" and together, the "Offers"). The Offers are being made on the terms and subject to the conditions (including, without limitation, the New Financing Condition (as defined below)) contained in the tender offer memorandum dated 24 May 2023 (the "Tender Offer Memorandum") prepared by the Company in respect of the Offers, and are subject to the offer and distribution restrictions set out below and as more fully described in the Tender Offer Memorandum.
Copies of the Tender Offer Memorandum are (subject to offer and distribution restrictions) available from the Tender Agent as set out below. Capitalised terms used in this announcement but not defined have the meanings given to them in the Tender Offer Memorandum."
I should probably shift the Hybrid Bonds on my chart and use the Next Call date rather than the maturity date, I'll think about it.
Garonne. If vod cuts its divi, what will it do with the money saved. Vod already has free cash flow, so can vod reduce it's deb't ? How does it do that? Can vod just pay off excisting deb't ? & at what cost. Or re invest, how? expanding how?. Vod has a fundemental problem, possitive cash flow, but what do you do with it. Why compare vod to R.R. R.R. can invest in their company by making very good jet engines in an expanding industry, what can vod do? It is not that simple. Why compare 2 companies that are nothing like each other? Complete nonsense, surely? Stop this management blaming, without thinking it through please.
Also, RR have risen from the ashes whilst not paying any dividend!
I don't think the SP can go much lower. A dividend cut would leave more cash in the coffers to pay down debt or reinvest in the business, which would enhance the company's long-term viability and therefore improve the SP. That's my view anyway.
Well i would be all for a dividend cut, if i knew for sure the sp would rise at a much faster rate but?, i wonder how many of you would be interested in investing here if no dividend, and would you buy this purely as a growth share, hmmm, could bring on a massive sell off here perhaps i'm not sure at all
Jax how much are you down on vod now?