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If they don't break the law, if they do not resist arrest, if they comply, there's almost never a problem.
I have a test for most everything in life. I call it "shoe on the other foot". Try putting yourself in the shoes of the police and you'll sing a different tune.
All one needs to do is obey and respect the law, laws enacted by our legislature, and things are fine.
What I read and hear from the mainstream media are a joke. It's even worse in the UK and on the Continent. At any rate, I really don't give a fvkk what the rest of the world thinks, I just live my life, mind my own business, and take responsibility for my own actions.
doggy,
Yes! I have heard it all before about the police being trained to eliminate threat.
That seems part of the problem as threat is open to interpretation and fellow police officers nearly always refuse to testify against wrong-doing by their mates.
The same goes on in prisons in America and the U.K.
American justice seems particularly harsh, heavy-handed and vindictive, I wouldn't like to be on the wrong side of it.
baldy,
I agree, there is clearly an issue here when the last time a police officer was successfully prosecuted in the UK concerning the death of somebody in custody was in 1969.
"BTW, I have oceanfront property to sell you in Wyoming."
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Blimey, an American who believes in global warming and the predicted sea level rise!!!
Tricky, to be fair to America. The UK has a police force & laws that have been accused of unfairly targeting young black men. Also quite a number of high profile deaths of black men in police custody over the years. So perhaps we cannot throw stones.
Hey Milhous,
Do not believe what you read in the press. Period.
If you do believe what they tell you, and you are over the age of 12, then that's your problem. BTW, I have oceanfront property to sell you in Wyoming.
I did not come here to get into the rubbish of debating things that are going on in the States. I don't do that with people in the States, because many here are also "misinformed" or "uninformed". They've the same horrible habit of believing what the mainstream media tell them.
I'll add this before I move on for good on the topic:
Regarding your below comments
"Shooting to kill seems a particularly vile and disgusting act and extremely cowardly too, by the way."
You have the luxury of saying the above from your computer chair. The police face split second, life and death decisions. They are taught and trained to eliminate the threat.
"The police seem to delight in setting up a most sadistic opportunity to kill."
The above is an absurd and a totally ignorant statement. I use the term ignorant not in a derogatory manner, but as defined. I am ignorant on many topics. That being the case, I do not speak with authority on any of them.
There is a cure for ignorance, it's called education and becoming informed. There is no cure for stupid. I am pretty sure you are "curable".
No ill will intended by the above, and I particularly like your post of 11:18hr.
"Pulling down statues on the back of a BLM protest group arising in America, is madness writ large."
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I saw what happened in Britol differently. To me it was wonderful....almost poetic.
I don't agree that the history should be erased however. Just that these people - whose wealth was built on misery - should not be glorified with statues in prominent sites and buildings named after them. Rename the buildings. Put the statues in museums with information about slavery and a big sign above it saying: "This is the statue of a slave trader"....and also a video of the statue being tore down & dumped in the harbour by angry Bristolians (in this case).
Oops, I meant no irreverence to black deaths,
I meant never mind our past woes on this tricky company.
Never mind, the sp is up again, hooray!
doggy,
The media here show black people being killed like non-humans by police in America.
No doubt white people are killed also but somehow the cameras are not rolling.
What we may need to consider is that black people when frightened tend to jump about
as part of a natural nervous reaction and then the police shoot.
Shooting to kill seems a particularly vile and disgusting act and extremely cowardly too, by the way.
The police seem to delight in setting up a most sadistic opportunity to kill.
Not right, needs sorting big time.
baldy,
Getting things into perspective.
We could write a book about man's inhumanity to man.
I don't believe the British are anywhere near the top of the league.
In Dickensian times white people were killed in the potteries and many other industrial
outfits, working in dangerous and unsanitary conditions.
That is termed as wage slavery.
There is also indentured servitude, common in the colonies, like America, before slavery replaced it.
About half of those were white and European.
African tribes through history have raided other tribes, maimed, raped killed and enslaved prisoners.
There should be a book about the killing tribes of Africa and their chiefs.
The whole of history is littered with cruelty, slavery was but one facet and not necessarily the worst.
Pulling down statues on the back of a BLM protest group arising in America, is madness writ large.
Milhous,
You are wrong in your assertion about "the appalling police-killing of black people in N. America" if you believe this is anything close to common. There were a total of 8 instances of police on black killings last year where the person killed was unarmed. And a few of those were the police being attacked by an "unarmed" black assailant. It is a total crock of sheet, except in a very few instances.
You are totally misinformed about the matter if that is what you believe.
Tricky, you are wrong.
Two wrongs don't make a right. And one cannot appease ones conscience by saying that others were as equally bad. It is rather sad that you search for ways to justify the crimes of our past. Slavery was/is inhuman. In any time or place it is wrong.
Regarding the appalling police-killing of black people in N. America, in recent years, the attempts to 'scrub' (erase) history by removing offending statues in this country, on the back of 'Black Lives Matter' (BLM) arising, is surely a mistake.
We certainly were guilty of many historic crimes of a racial nature, but the Muslims traded in African slaves (in complicity with African tribal chiefs) for over a thousand years, and nobody ever points the blame at them.
So, we are not to blame alone and regarding Missionaries in Africa converting the locals, if the Muslims had got there first they would have completely erased all artifacts and cultural identity.
We did not do this.
Feel free to challenge me if you believe I am wrong in my assertions.
My thanks to Eddie21, for his information about Andy’s comments on Tremor.
Know nothing about the bloke apart from his title (supplied by Google).
Eags,
Do you know anything about his track record? I don't care enough to devote the time to check him out. As a matter of fact, I just wasted more time writing this note to you than I intended to spend on the matter. Oh well.
But he is head of the Pan-European Small and Mid Cap team at Schroders and 'presumably' can put his money behind his analysis. So not a run of the mill tipster.
That's the way I took it...5 X where we now stand.
I wouldn't mind that one bit, but I call analysts "anal-ysts", because they all stink.
"He drew some parallels with Trade Desk ( PE of 169 against Tremors 13) implying that Tremor offer very good investment potential in comparison and could well have a PE of 5 x 13 next year."
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What does Andy Brugh mean by "a PE of 5 x 13 next year"?
If TRMR has a SP of £2 when the PE is circa 13, then 5 times that would be £10 next year!!!
Have I misunderstood something?!
Andy Brough, head of the Pan-European Small and Mid Cap team at Schroders
The Context around Andy’s comments about Tremor was a question from the presenter asking him “What is a good example of a company that has reinvented itself and has a good growth potential”
He outlined that a major problem with ad-techs companies has been their inability to have enough time/ability to grow strong enough roots to withstand the next technological wave and NOT get swept away by those waves.
Blinx/Tap/R1 combined (mostly thanks to R1 platform) have been able to consolidate in to an entity that is strong enough to have grown the strong and deep roots necessary to withstand upcoming changes and grow significantly.
He mentioned, Tremor have Good Management, Good levels of Cash with a very good recent Trading Update.
He drew some parallels with Trade Desk ( PE of 169 against Tremors 13) implying that Tremor offer very good investment potential in comparison and could well have a PE of 5 x 13 next year.
He also thought that the management will be look to sell Tremor at some stage.