Tiziana Life Sc Share Chat (TILS)

Apologies not sure why I used the 10+ year example.

Feel free to read the above, most PI’s will be able to conclude whether the company timeframes match their ambitions.

Failing that I would stick to the broker targets of £5 for the year.

Rorkes - Same here. Good luck with that.

Tils’ plays are not a 10 year investment plan. Ofc anyone can keep shares as long as they wish. But the pipeline isn’t a 10 years wait. A bit of research on their website will tell you this.

Around 70% of potential new drugs pass Phase 1 and enter Phase 2, which continues to measure safety, while looking at how effective the treatment is, too. Phase 2 trials recruit up to several hundred patients with the condition to take part. This phase typically lasts several months to two years

Just 33% of drugs make it past Phase 2 and into Phase 3, which tests the potential treatment in the largest number of people. This phase measures both safety and effectiveness with many volunteers, sometimes thousands. Phase 3 trials last from one to three years.

After Phase 3, a pharmaceutical company may submit a New Drug Application (NDA) for the treatment to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). The FDA then reviews results from all stages of the trial to determine whether it will approve the drug and allow the pharmaceutical company to begin marketing it to the public.

https://www.tizianalifesciences.com/our-drugs/

The link above shows the phases these drugs are at. Though for the latest update on miciclib refer to the RNS as the website needs updating.

Hope this helps.

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Buffet also sold all his airlines stock earlier this year which have now combined rallied nearly 100% up. Think they called it Panic sold. According to his own rules a stock a market crash was also predicted around 6-8 weeks ago. Nobody is infallible.

The TILS broker target was 1 year and not 10+, most tils share holders are in it for that period or 24 months.

Safy - so before covid they were at a much lower valuation - I'm thinking most of the rise is due to covid test. My next move is to top up here rather than here cause the timelines are shorter and the risks lower - as you say none of their therapies are even preclinical yet.

There certainly are some people who post things on this board which clearly means they should not be invested in Biotech.

As Warren Buffett says:
“Invest Only in Companies You Understand”

Everyone who is invested here should research the Company, its pipeline and its future growth prospects based on that pipeline.

Biotech investing is really only for the specialist, well informed Investor willing to take a long term view, and by long term I do not mean 6 months or 1 year.

Safy , TILS SP is where it is due to past give aways, bucket loads of shares in CLNs, warrants, ATS etc.

Rorkes,

In their latest RNS the fundraiser for their cancer plays. Most drugs are not even at pre clinical stages. I think one of 5 drugs is. Top of my head.

I don’t dispute the potential at all in Avct, if they can nail the tests they’ll kill it. I’m invested for that. But I can’t get my head around how TILS have StemprintER, one drug at phase IIb, and the crown jewel entering phase II. The covid play, and I’m sure they have other bits and be stuck at 100p.

It takes an awful lot of time and costs into the millions to move from pre clinical to phase I and then to phase II. And it’s not a guaranteed success either. And yet still we are languishing behind.

Please don’t assume I’m against AVCT, I’m there and I can happily prove by showing my share certs. I guess I’m just saying the TILS is due a serious rerate if AVCT is correctly priced. Almost like a 100% rerate would just be scratching the surface.

Safy - I'm in both as well. Valuation for AVCT is shifting the existing market for Mab to affirmers in diagnostics and therapeutics. Huge but will require millions, time and a lot of misses on the way.

TILS has delivered more and has concrete assets. So less risky but much smaller potential.

Great to see two UK companies - being in both gives me some cover

City trader - nope you can legally force them to hand it over or you open Stemprinter UK Ltd if you don't want to waste time.... take it for what it is.

Is likely to be made public before the record date. The f'cast valuation should drive the SP materially higher as buyers get in ahead of the de merger to realise the value of the both entities
Value of stemprinter will be fully transparent at this point

I agree CC. Heard of that before, in fact an acquaintance of mine does it (slightly different as it’s all around planning applications for him).
As I said, buying company names and “extorting” them on, became outlawed in 2013, so maybe this guy was approached due to his knowledge and “diversified”.

Its my belief that someone is just trying to sell the company name to TILS. A chancer if anything.

Tils development from that point won't take any external funding, it could possibly be privately funded by Gabriele who will take more stock in the firm , i'll be up for that all the way, although at 40% he won't need our approval and after a successful buyout of Stemprinter Ltd everyone will love him even more.

If you dig a little deeper Mr McDonald sets up companies, I have seen another guy who does this for a Billionaire in another Co I have an interest in, its how they set them up off the shelf them pop them off one at a time.... this other guy set up 156 newco's in a week, I trawled through them until I found the one I was after, im sure Mr Mcdonald is the same ...

Very hard for someone to hold on to a company name in order to be a pain they changed the rules n regs on that and internet IP, plus this isn't Gabriele's first rodeo, nobody's mug he has spent 7 years getting to this point since he sold out his last firm - give the guy some credit, do some research - or dont, it doesn't matter.

Look at what the BOD tell you then check that against real world transactions when 2 + 2 = 4 and the CEO owns 40% of the company you go with the flow and buy as many as you can afford to hold for up to 12 months but I think within 6 this will make Gabriele Cerrone a billionaire and a few of us very happy.

Then we will still have Tils for them to develop which won't take as long as Stemprinter and Spare have.

Not ours.

UK's antibody testing fiasco exposed: Study shows PHE's coronavirus test misses up to a THIRD of positive results, the Department of Health has cancelled orders worth £70MILLION and a firm given £1m by officials produced a sub-standard test:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8326429/UKs-antibody-testing-fiasco-exposed-PHE-test-misses-cases.html

****swelling- well put! lol

Lol. Fair enough Martyboy, you and Safy might be right, although according to the article I clicked on, the practice of buying up company names and selling them on was outlawed in a new Companies Act in September 2013, the same year that was written.

Who knows.

This will be big

Agree Safy that revenue will be a key focus notwithstanding all the great products TILS has at various stages so based on forward potential. That’s why I curious about the year end, which feels like it has to be next week.
I personally don’t think we’ll hear about the StemprintER spin off for some time yet due to all the work involved. If they actually do it as it’s not guaranteed.
Agree that a danger that some people could possibly move some holdings into some others companies with all the positive action last week.

Try googling postman Duncan Macdonald from Wales who registers company names to sell.

Look at the names of companies registered at the address.

Agreed D-G.

Also Stemprinter.com and a .co.uk domain names have both been owned since 2016. They were last updated in October 2019 and expire in on 1st November this year.

Was about to write 'too much of a coincidence' when your post popped up!
'Stemprinter Limited Changed from Residential Property Finance Realisation Limited 11 days ago'.
Unless it's someone trying to grab the company name just to be a pain..

Look the address up on companies house. It’s beyond doubt for me. Lots of companies registered there.

Too much of a coincidence for there to be nothing in it Safy imo.
I’m reserving judgement for now. McDonald could be anyone, used as a holding name till official directors etc appointed. Register the name with Co’s House in March 2020 and It’s there when/if you need it.

Time will tell I guess.