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Enough of the cross ramping now.
Sorry that was meant for SR123.
Thanks BCrader for the tip, just checked the company and bought a big chunk at 43.68. Bit of a speculative buy but because of the sector they are in, I decided to take the plunge.
rylidan,
“The benefit of being lth, not stuck to my screen all day.....”
Post 10 of 11 here today! Lol!Sorry I couldn’t resist a little banter.
Hope you had a good round. I too enjoyed the sunshine today.
Good luck with your investments
Trek
BCradar,
“Think you really need help. I’m in at a very low entry price and don’t intend to sell till much much higher . Get it now ???? You’re a trader like lucky , many of us are not and are invested - through the ups and downs !!”
Reread my post. I said I bought the dip at 300p today. Didn’t sell.
Couldn’t care less if Lucky is a trader or not. We are all traders. It’s just the frequency and gap between trades that varies.
I trade to improve my investment average but I generally as a rule keep a core holding and add on dips or sell a little if i think it runs too far ahead.
Been doing this for years. It’s now a hobby as it’s paid handsomely even after allowing for some clangers! The more vix the better imo!
It’s the buying and selling that makes a market. Without folk like me grabbing a few extra on the dip how would our insti exit?
Well they’d have to keep dropping the price until a level is reached where buyers can be found. So I have helped prop us up today! Lol!
Trek
The benefit of being lth, not stuck to my screen all day.....
The sun is shining so going out to play some golf. Have a nice day everyone :-)
Thats does indeed happen, wouldnt say its a fact in most investements, timescsles always have a bearing, but is very common.
OK, so in your version the trader has made 16% and the lth has made 8%, a difference of only 8%.
Except next time you sell at £3.30 you may miss out on future profits.
It's a well know fact that investors cash out far too early in most investments.
Exactly BBB :)
seems some people on here need calculators for christmas, yet also enjoy a bit of insult throwing.
FWIW, i think your free running strategy is the best model availible on AIM stock., well done on your buy/sell
I would also like to sat that on Friday I said I had sold "part" of my holding. However, I am definitely a lth with my remaining £20k ish of shares here. For me to buy "trading shares" I have to feel 90% confident the price will rise short term. I only trade in companies I'm also a lth in because I know they are a long term hold at worst, and I rarely, if ever, trade at a loss.
Because its 8% more shares and the price ahs increased 8% since he (re)bought. It's not rocket science. But it's also just speculation.
I was minded to sell half my holding when it bagged for me, it never quite got there but I took my original investment out this morning for a free ride from here. I may add again if there is significant price weakness in the coming weeks.
i beleive my line 8 covers it perfectly well.
A holder sells at a high, buys back low and resells high later on. Two bites. One in cash from sale and one in increased stock price on rebuy.
No wonder you are a novice still!
The lth will have say 1m shares at £3.30
The day trader who got back in 8% cheaper will have 1.08m shares at £3.30, but also runs the risk the price will surge past the £3.30 mark
So tell me, how is that a 16% increase for the trader who calls it perfectly on the dip?
There will be traders and holders either way the mining sector has taking a beating today with banks not far behind expecting a bounce tomorrow if not then Wednesday each to their own let's keep to fundermentals here saying who is right and who is wrong is pointless
Good day all
of course it does.
you sell at a figure - friday 330, the price drops to 300 (8% for clarity)
you have made 8% cash on the drop
you buy back at the bottom (i.e 300) and gain 8% more stock value if you reinvest.
the price of your cheaper stock rises back to 330
That equates to an amount of 16%.
8% on the way down in cash, and 8% on the way back to previous sell point in increased stock value.
if you cashed out you just obtained 8% (less any subsequent rise back in sp)
if you sat on your hands, you lost 8% in value unless the stock recovers to level then you made nothing.
And that 8% has just become 6%
Lucky
I always listen to every single viewpoint on these boards, good bad up and down, then make my own view and take actions accordingly. Its never ceases to amaze me how some people react when they are questioned, particularly after clearly making poor moves. Some are honest and put their hands up, others get all nasty verbal and childish. It totally spoils the lse boards and i fully agree is unproductive, but i beleive a bully must always be stood upto and called out.
All sellers on friday, inc me you and several others who posted their choices opened themselves upto critisism - if the sp had risen we were all there to be critisised, it didnt, we were all very honest with our actions and based them on the current news - complete with links to same.
Completely agree about the links being provided, asked for plenty of times but never provided by some of the rampers on here.
Good luck to you sir with your future investments/trades, and congratulations on your friday call
You don't get 16% by selling and reducing when the price goes back up to £3.30. You just get the 8% additional shares compared to simply holding (less charges).
Daytradenovice, don't listen to BC.
He well know that we are all here to make money, the guy obviously has a serious attention deficit disorder....
What upset me most is the uselessness of this kind of discussion, as if in the end we can reverse time, make Tga sp go up again or win a popularity contest.
Please to does that read theses posts, don't be afraid to be bullied by people like BCrader, be polite and speak your mind. Is only with an honest and objective discussion, that we can make clear investment decision.
And don't forget to ask for links.....
Actually im not (as i have also posted here previously) im generally a lth'er.
But i do where it makes sound financial sense. And Friday was an example of that.
Get a calculator and do the math.
And stop the ridiculus insults, very unbecoming.
Of course Trek the best play would have been sell at 3.30, then buy the additional 8%'s worth back at 300.
Gain 8% on the way down, maybe 8% on the way back to level = 16%.
Maybe some sellers did exactly that, who knows.
Then either hold for more and/or the potential dividend if following the fcf as projected.
Trading on news certainly pays better at times rather than just blind faith holding and petty insults
Too early to call who is right or wrong atm...
Lucky’s well timed sell at around 330p was it...
Or my top up at 300p + 30% divi of course.
But then to be fair as I posted before the sell before or after the divi or indeed hold will be the big challenge.
But for now I reckon the 300p buy will beat the 330p sell. Unless of course FOMO kicks in and a buy follows. If not it’s the rear view mirror imo! Lol!
Gonna be a traders paradise this one eh!
Usual caveats
Trek
Bcrader
more insults, rather than sound financial practice, yawn.
Regardless of short or long term You are 8% down in stock from where you could have been since friday though as you full well know.
Keep kidding yourself.
Just saying.
Absolutely Rylidan, A great oppertunity to take an additional 8% of stock for no additional capital if one so chooses.