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You're not really adding anything new to the conversation. We know the company is in a precarious position and my opinion is the price reflects that. The update was broadly positive in my opinion, suggesting green shoots of recovery were visible. Again, this was reflected by the jump in share price - gains which the market has mostly held onto.
Time will tell who is right. However, it's more than a little odd that you spend so much time on a company you have no interest in being part of.
It's really very easy to foresee a company won't go into administration in general. But in the case of ted it easier to see that it will. Good brand but they are I'm trouble with their finances. For the benefit of all I don't have any association with square point capital.
What I can say is the is a high debt loss making company with no prospect in sight for future groy. It's was in trouble well before Covid. That's a very strong basis consideration administration. And it's priced accordingly. No view opposes this.
"None of you can say this won't go into administration."
There you go, I said it.
The comment adds about as much to the conversation as your suggestion that ted will go into admin. Truth is admin is possible for any company. Time will tell here, but right now the numbers are pointing in the opposite direction.
How can you 'prove' it will?
How can you prove a negative you $ickhead.
No we can't say it definitely won't go into administration, nor can you say it definitely will. If it's priced to fail that's good, as it means if it doesn't there significant upside in the sp from here. Moron
Proving nothing.
None of you can say this won't go into administration. TED is priced to fail. hilarious comments here.
100% agree. Ocean has an agenda and its clear as day. Whoever pays him should sack the idiot for giving the game away so easily :-)
What an utter load of b0llock$ about 'proving' something will not go into admin. These chat forum paid shorters with an agenda said the same about Cineworld when it hit 20. Hold tight to your TED shares, you'll be glad you did in a few months. Huge gap up to come. GLA.
"shorters at this level are taking a big risk near-term imo."
Agree.
This is priced to fail, but the recent update suggests it has a good chance of survival.
Even the Times has turned positive:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ted-baker-embraces-online-sales-surge-xthjn6tbr
shorters at this level are taking a big risk near-term imo.
on the move now. 78.80p paid.
"Pfft, get a grip, you mean to say a 3 week old LSE account with 111 out of 118 posts being negative on TED has an agenda for someone with a short?? Surely not? Ocean literally sticks out like a sore thumb it's comical"
Indeed. And there's never been any substance to the arguments put forward.
Blue day it seems. Would be nice to get back above 80p.
Pfft, get a grip, you mean to say a 3 week old LSE account with 111 out of 118 posts being negative on TED has an agenda for someone with a short?? Surely not? Ocean literally sticks out like a sore thumb it's comical
Are short on this . What is the likelihood that Ocean is working for them. Pretty high I would say...
Companies throughout the ftse100 and 250 are loss making right now, have bloated enterprise values and their leverage multiples are close to their covenant multiples. Most have significant net debt unliked TED which are in a NET CASH position. Are these listed firm all going into admin, bankrupt ... of course they are not. Why? Supportive creditors, the world will get through covid-19. If you are new to the stock market then you need to be clued up, understand these things and then you will see through these garbage admin, bankruptcy comments. De-ramping and calling a stock lower is one thing but there has to be a boundary in terms of how far you take it. THe attempt to prey on the weak with such termination headlines makes me pity the individual. Regrettably Oceanpassage is unable to see this.
I personally can't see how it can be avoided. And I also see no substantiated view to address this issue.
" I take it that there is no defense against administration. "
stop being an idiot......come back when you think your admin is imminent..in the mean time try looking for a life
poker chips - more like an insurance auction for a written off classic Porsche 911. I guess want to see how bad the damage is before making a bit.
I take it that there is no defense against administration.
" From what I have heard the only strong asset this company has is it's brand"
heard?...
"For me this is a company I want to love, I just don't have any reason to take this position"
well disappear then ....
you sound like a bloke that hates Abba but then sits and suffers by listening to them day and day out
Go and do something useful ...instead of wasting your time here
KSH how do you substantiate your claim TED can avoid administration?
I have held no short positions in this stock. What you are saying is in no way true.
For anyone reading this administration $hite, Oceanpassage is a well known shorter on this - check his history.
TED is not going into administration.
GLA.
From what I have heard the only strong asset this company has is it's brand. I can't see how TED can avoid administration in the next 18 months at this stage. If this happens it will be highly likely to be snapped up by a competitor. But this will not benefit shareholders. For me this is a company I want to love, I just don't have any reason to take this position. I can't see the company being bought out it's in too weak a position. The only hope that may make sense is for a competitor to offer a placement in their supply chain such as online distribution or brand Installation in exchange for share placement/rights issue.
Is an excellent recovery play at this low entry sp..
As always dyor