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Reuters LOL
DF. Just read any days convoy from the past 5 years. It's the same day in day out..
Climate change is relevant as it will drive the need for copper.
Quite right DartFrog.
Just one more.
Just found the David Bellamy quote of 2008 fact checked by Reuters.
Basically he was wrong.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-climate-change-idUSL1N2RT1IT
Interesting that all these global warming theories are, please let this board get back to Solgold!
Frog
Sorry mad person.
The IPCC did not hide an email on the medieval warm period.
If I remember correctly this was a claim made by skeptical science.
These are a bunch of nutters that may be linked to the oil industry.
Don't know about David Bellamy.
But if he did deny global warming on a public broadcaster then they were right to sack him for spreading misinformation.
Why did the IPCC hide the email about having to discredit the Mediaeval Warm Period? Why did Dr David Bellamy lose his TV contract after calling MMGW bunkum? Why are prominent scientists sacked and cancelled? Surely, if they're wrong, just prove it with debate.
The IPCC even stopped adjusting for the heat island effect, when it didn't give the required results.
Anyway please read the information I have posted.
It's good to have an enquiring mind.
Don't read the rubbish that's out there .
Read what 97% of the world's scientific community are telling us.
Because they speak with one voice and their research stands up to scrutiny through the peer review process.
Madpunter you get idiots in every profession.
Science is no different.
The thing with science is it's not about personality but if your finding stands up to scrutiny.
That's why we have peer review.
None of the people you are on about stand up to having their theories put through the peer review process.
Good grief Madpunter.
I don't know how many times I have answered questions on the medieval warm period.
It was not hotter than today.
Some parts were hotter some were cooler, overall temperature was cooler.
How much rubbish do you believe or do you only read conspiracy theories to suit your world view.
For crying out load read peer review studies.
When prominent scientists get cancelled and sacked and debate is stifled, it rings alarm bells in true scientists, who question everything to get to the truth. The Liberal Left think that's a place in Cornwall.
Madpunter I didn't say it was constant I said it was around 200 parts per million.
You said it was 8 and 11 times more than today.
If you're right then that is between 3200 and 4400 parts per million.
We haven't seen that since the time of the dinosaurs when the earth was really hot.
I will supply the gigafacts entry to prove it
If you don't know what gigafacts are then no one can help you.
It's the scientific community getting together to debunk climate myths that the gullible believe.
https://gigafact.org/fact-briefs/is-it-possible-to-have-an-ice-age-even-with-high-levels-of-co2-in-the-atmosphere
How do you explain the Mediaeval Warm Period, when it was warmer than today? This was before we started burning fossil fuels. I'll give you a clue. It's the big orange ball in the sky.
Madpunter the Antarctic is much colder than the Arctic ~50 deg f in their respective summer averages so the south pole, thankfully has something of a buffer in regard to man made climate change unlike the Arctic which is surrounded by land that is warming up and losing its ice and snow cover which will accelerate the warming.
Madpunter and Jezzoo and the rest of the denier's out there.
I am going to do you a big favour, so you don't remain idiots for the rest of your Life.
I will post the NOAA education centre link.
This will enable you to understand climate change without all the mathematics involved.
If you are capable of the math then feel free to look at the NOAA datasets, which is what is used by all scientists around the world.
I don't think you even understand what man made climate change is.
This will help massively.
https://www.noaa.gov/education/resource-collections/climate#:~:text=Currently%2C%20our%20planet's%20global%20surface,potential%20to%20affect%20environmental%20conditions.
It's never been constant. Show me links for charts showing it constant. It's never been in correlation on the geological charts for periods of hundreds of millions of years.
Jezzoo no pretence.
He got my whole family into astronomy.
What on earth had climate change got to do with the sun.
It's the man made part that's important . Not the everyday climate.
I think you and Madpunter are just winding me up, as noone can be that stupid.
Did warn you nit.
You just did it again Quady, when did I say insects have anything to do with measureable CO2 ?
I didn't, but you went straight into Quadsplaining some waffle about measuring the milligrammes per kilogramme.
Climate change has always happened Quady, some short term (decades) some longer ( centuries) and some long term (Millenia). Ice ages ? Solar flares ?
We are at the mercy of that thermonuclear ball of plasma we sometimes see in the sky.
Our particular form of climate change is just a smokescreen for much bigger problems due to population explosion.
Are you saying population expansion isn't a fact Quady.
Maybe you should ask one of the Patrick Moores you pretend to know, wasn't one of them in Star Trek ?
Good Grief.
Madpunter you are just telling lies.
CO2 at the time of ice ages was pretty constant at 200 parts per million.
Today it is over 400 parts per million.
The sea ice in Antarctica has reached record levels for the last few years. The IPCC tried to explain that this is because glacial meltwater is freshwater and freezes easier than sea water, which is true. However, it's the whole coastline and not just where the rivers flow into the oceans. This also explains why the oceans are getting more acidic, as cooling causes more Carbon Dioxide to dissolve, not a few more parts per million in the atmosphere.
When the temperature was rising on the Earth, it was also rising on other planets in our solar system. Milankovich Cycles are what causes climate change and the burning of fossil fuels has a negligible effect.
5 million people die each year from the effects of temperature, 500k through heat and 4.5m through cold. We focusing on the wrong science, but that's nothing new. When glaciation was first mooted, it was ridiculed. The same happened with plate tectonics. How do you explain the last ice ages having 8 X and 11 X as much Carbon Dioxide as today?
Good grief Jezzoo climate change is fact it's undeniable.
Why on earth do you think otherwise.
What has insects got to do with measurable co2
We measure the milligrammes per kilogramme.
You cannot pretend that you don't believe in the measurements.
Wanna see the V5's Quady ?
What you state isn't fact either,' it's an opinion.
I'm not panicking about my investment either, just bored with it, tell me, how is that connected with how many vehicles I have as I can't see it ?
Also check the recommends, more people agree with me than you (again)
I've always been a country boy too and have seen the dramatic reduction in insects and song birds over the last 30 years, it's modern farming methods and pesticides that have driven this change, we are asking too much of the natural world to feed the burgeoning population.
There will be a tipping point in population numbers eventually and the planet will be fine, we humans have a high opinion of ourselves, some more than others.
Atlas will shrug.
Then my mistake I knew Patrick Moore the astronomer.
The point is climate change is fact.
It's proven beyond doubt.
Sir Patrick Moore was a British astronomer. Dr Patrick Moore is a Canadian scientist who co-founded Greenpeace.