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Who is Matt Handstocks ?
Scinv I think you're a bit mixed up in your rush to have something to feel superior about.
I am extremely pro-vaccine. I also know who I am, but thanks for asking.
https://twitter.com/MHanstocks/status/1367845650788974595?s=20
Doc. - I agree with your sentiments absolutely. For people to suggest you are de-ramping or are ascribing minimal value to SNG now is blatantly ridiculous.
Back in July when we had the P2 results there was no vaccine likely to be delivered by the end of the year. There were no useful approved treatments and, in a way Synairgen could have been thought of as a world saviour. I certainly described it to my G.P. nephew as a potential game changer.
Things haven't panned out as I had hoped and we have had an extra 60,000 deaths or whatever since then. SNG is not in the hospitals yet and there are still no approved early stage treatments. This alone is a failure of our current system probably due partly to the concentration of money and effort on vaccines by not only the government but also the big Pharmas. Now there are a number of potential treatments in process and about seven approved vaccines internationally. The playing field has not remained unchanged. This does not mean there is no longer a rainbow for Synairgen but it is undoubtedly a less distinct rainbow and possibly only visible from certain places on the globe. A pot of gold is still a pot of gold though.
I have not sold any of my holding since I still believe SNG001 will eventually come to play a major role not only in Covid but probably 'flu' and other pulmonary viral infections including possible pandemics in years to come. I will also be proud,if this turns out to be the case, that my investment into the share offer in a small way assisted Synairgen to progress P3 trials and subsequently bring the product to market.
Spinnaker
Had mine today, very slick operation by NHS. it was the azn version
I’m booked in for this Saturday - will let you know if I grow a third head or anything.
@Newbie I think you're right in that vaccines don't completely fix the problem. People who are vaccinated can still get ill, can still spread it, can still be asymptomatic carriers etc etc. However, the vaccines are highly effective at reducing those risks.
We can't rule out that vaccination has an impact in making variants more dominant. We can't rule out that variants have emerged more rapidly in patients given convalescent plasma, though there are far more immunocompromised patients out there where the virus has free reign. What we can say is that these mutations have arisen independently and repeatedly around the world. The virus will literally take the path of least resistance. If you're unvaccinated, unfortunately that's you.
Comparisons with polio vaccines really don't hold water. Vaccination science has been completely transformed in the last 50 years (plus probably another 10 years of normal advances within the last year). We know an awful lot more than we did and can avoid lots of mistakes that we already know about. There is always risk from 'unknown unknowns', but we know far more than we did. That's the beauty of science. Individuals get things wrong constantly but the collective body of work (mostly) becomes less wrong over time.
Individuals have to make their own decisions on vaccines, my concern is that those decisions should be made on the best information we have rather than youtube conspiracy videos that people make for money and attention.
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I am 67 and had my AZ jab two weeks ago at a local university. Pfizer was not available, due to the lack of refrigeration on site. No hard sell whatsoever. I was a bit shivery for two days and then fine. All the people I know who took the Pfizer jab had little, or no. side effects.
Rotto
'I can only speak personally and as soon as I’m eligible I will get vaccinated. As far as I’m concerned that’s one less human factory the virus has the ability to mutate in.
I feel thats my social responsibility to others.'
If the vaccine only lowers the severity of symptoms you can still carry the virus, spread it and thus it can still mutate so I'm not sure the above statement holds 100%.
I could be wrong (apologies in advance if so)
One thing I would like to see is someone looking at these mutations (Brazil, SA and UK) and potentially looking for a link between them and the Astra vaccine tested in those countries. Maybe we are seeing something like the vaccine strain polio? Just a thought and one I have no answers too.. Just my observation.
Hope everyone is well
Harchris I agree, that's why I detest people thinking they can tell others what decisions to make about their own health. The term selfish twat has been used on here this morning already. Each to their own, but dont criticise anyone for making a medical decision that is right for them.
Couldn’t have phrased it better myself Matt. You have a right to do/not to do things, only when it does not impinge on the rights of others: eg contract Covid
Royoboy - count yourself lucky you are not his doctor then, you would probably be on the dole queue.
There are four pillars of medical ethics which are defined as follows:
Autonomy – respect for the patient's right to self-determination.
Beneficence – the duty to 'do good'
Non-Maleficence – the duty to 'not do bad'
Justice – to treat all people equally and equitably.
I understand that, it's just a shame that people believe it was rushed when there is zero evidence for that. I mean it was rushed in the sense that the pandemic was grinding the world to a standstill and the sooner we could get back to normality the better...It was fast tracked yes, but to me that's simply evidence of what progress can be made when enough money and resources are thrown at something like this.
Anyway I'm not one of those people who think it's shameful or selfish to reject the vaccine if you aren't comfortable taking it. As long as you don't discourage others too.
Harchris I think Woodstock is saying the likelihood of contracting covid and getting seriously I'll for someone in their 40's is extremely low. So taking a vaccine that was rushed to market under these circumstances isnt necessary. A sentiment I agree with. As I have said here before, official death rate is approx 0.2% of the population with the vast majority over 70. Very
very low risk if you are in your 40's.
In other words you're rejecting the vaccine because you'd prefer to get ill and then be treated instead? Strange logic.
Matt, the difference between the drugs you mention and the current vaccine is they have been tested.
Guess what, I don’t take any of the medication you take, even if the Dr told me.
Good job you weren’t one of Dr Shipman’s patients.
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mattw007
Posts: 935
Price: 174.00
Strong Buy
RE: JJToday 07:48
To answer you question seriously:
I don't know what's in a flu vaccine but I still take that, because it's been recommended by proper scientists and my GP.
I didn't know what was in an MMR jab, but I still had that.
I don't know what's in a Lemsip Max, but I'll still take that if I'm not feeling well.
I respect anybody’s right to make their own decision on taking one of the vaccines.
I am reticent about taking medicine willy nilly and if you read the packaging they invariably warn of a spectrum of side effects ranging from minor, moderate to even fatal.
But in this case guessing your age range which might have a big baring I would simply say absolutely your choice but risk to benefit?
Matt, your ignorance is bliss!
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mattw007
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Price: 174.00
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RE: JJToday 07:44
Yes, Prof it's got:
pork, alcohol, genetically mutated human DNA, some Bill Gates semen and a 5G mast.
My doctor keeps on at me to take the vaccine. Honesty I do not want it. Something that has been developed in less than a year doesn't float my boat.
I am irritated Sng001 is taking ages to bring to the market, whilst vaccines are being pumped out like no tommorow. Double standards imop.
Matt,
I take it you will be able to list the full ingredients to the apprehensive vaccine takers that your endorsing?
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mattw007
Posts: 935
Price: 174.00
Strong Buy
RE: JJToday 00:42
With a significant proportion of people refusing to take vaccines, along with the Brazilian variant spreading, never underestimate the power of nature or the stupidity of man.
Well, add this to the mix:
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/03/health/bishops-catholics-johnson-and-johnson-vaccine/index.html
I don’t know how many Catholics will be listening to their bishops but this can’t help the vaccination program.
@Docdaneeka
The Biden statement issued yesterday is quite at odds with your inference that all Americans will be vaxd by end May and the need for SNG001 will be therefore redundant:
CNN on Bidens statement “The new date does not mean all Americans would receive shots by May 31; issues with distribution and personnel mean it could take much longer for all doses to be administered.”
And Biden on Biden’s statement: “ "That's progress," Biden said in remarks from the White House, warning there could still be delays in getting shots in Americans' arms and suggesting the country would not return to full normalcy for much longer.”
Biden and reporting media carefully used the terms “much longer”.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/03/02/politics/biden-merck-johnson--johnson-vaccine/index.html
If the FDA and Biden Administration felt the need for therapeutics has diminished because the vaccination target date has moved forward, they would close down Activ-2 trials and make do with the limited applies of whatever therapeutics they already have. That would be sensible thing to do. But they haven’t, which IMO speaks volumes. As of yesterday, COVID cases were rising in 69 countries (source Reuters). That seems like a non-diminishing market for a global treatment to me.
that will come to late for those in Texas and Mississippi which are about to open up soon without any mandates
Key word ‘offer’.
24hr production of JJ vaccine, to offer every adult in US a shot by May....