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bob I think it was trial 'in weeks' not a couple of weeks... also the manufacture was not for the actual trial vaccine it was more pre-trial manufacturing for I guess testing quality, stability etc .... still that was all a couple of weeks ago so we must be closer to it being the real deal now than then.
Again I'm sceptical it is a genuine article... yet to be proven either way..... what I will say is it doesn't affect my holding plans... for others it may which is maybe why they are more concerned about it.
Trials in a couple of weeks was the suggestion in the recent press blitz.
Given manufacturing is underway for a couple of weeks we should have a batch for Trials shortly.
Phase 1 Scib1 has been done so I guess the paperwork should not take to long.
Given trial timetable slippage in the past it could be a case of under promise and over deliver (for the first time)
Crumbs - yes 'results by early summer', say June, just 3 months hence - that seems very unlikely. But it's just Vulpes' private take to someone - (the blitz 'few weeks' referred to the start of trials did it not ? )
However, IMO it's good to see a major Investor having a real positive, (or cheeky) view.
The Vulpes missive may be quite genuine and right or wrong . . . . .
I omitted the point that maybe, Vulpes don't 'know', but are simply echoing other comments in this letter, (it may not be a circular), which we too have all seen and heard. Time will tell . . .
TF I think it is 'results by early Summer' that is the most ....cheeky!
Konar - didn't the 'few weeks' comment arise in the 'blitz' more than once ?
I wonder if Vulpes have picked up on that ?
CH will want to not 'overpromise' and will exercise the usual Scancell caution.
I'd guess we could be closer than CH conveys but, it's not in the bag.
Vulpes are giving their own view to someone or other - it's their genuine view, but, they don't run the science. We have other comments on similar lines. So ?
My punt on this is that Covidity progresess sooner, rather than later. That's not a ramp - we're discussing it and it's my guess. GLA
Afternoon Guys,
Miavoce your post last night 20.15 is superb, Very helpful and will take a chillpill myself, lol.
I'm more interested to know why, assuming that this circular is true, that one share holder knows trials are due to start in a matter of weeks, but the rest do not.
Given that CH did an investor presentation just a matter of days ago, he had opportunity to align what shareholders knew, and chose not to. He repeated the "starting in 2021" mantra. If Vulpes know otherwise then we should all formally know.
It's worth listening again as to why Vulpes invested in Scancell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=RDCMUC6zHYEnBuH4DYxbPLsbIaVw&v=Lg0krSrl4Mw&feature=emb_rel_end
Those will be the mates then:)
Hi Crumbs - it appears that Vulpes is a bit more substantial than Diggles and their mates:-
https://vulpesinvest.com/team/
Crumbs - " the content about covidity and value is all fine and even the timeline could be true". That we agree.
As for the "cheeky little ramp" - well of course anything is possible but if that's right, the 'cheeky little' ramper needs a brain transplant if he thinks Folks will buy enough on reading just that, unconfirmed as it is, to affect the SP.
IMO in all likelihood, it's genuine and a nice echo of what emerged in the recent media 'blitz'. And after all, CH did not contradict it, as 'a few weeks time' WILL be in 2021, I'm inclined to go with the quote as genuine, but of course, I could be wrong.
That's it - I'll leave it now, remembering the number of determined doubters there were here, over the DE/NXC matter. ATB
I'm suspicious too.... I always thought Vulpes fund was just Diggles and their mates so not sure they would do such circulars does anyone know how to invest in a vulpes fund? ... anyways the content about covidity and value is all fine and even the timeline could be true but could also be a cheeky little ramp :)
Hi Roses, (Hasiba, RW etc.). With respect I think there's more than 'a hope in hell' and the post is very likely to be genuine. IF it was false, surely Vulpes or Prof. Peter James will before too long, surely do something to refute it.
If you remember, the appearance of NXC was greeted with stubborn doubt for weeks/months by some - on the other hand, many of us seemed to know instinctively it was indeed DE.
IMO this piece, kindly found by 'Chillpill', who has proved to be a helpful Poster before, is very likely to be genuine. As in the NXC matter, the way it is written suggests the highest level of understanding and a professional way of putting the case.
IF this piece had been put together by some clever ramper, he would have neede to pull a script with that level of expertise, from somewhere else, and I note our bloodhounds here and there, have not yet 'found' what might be the 'real' source, yet.
It looks to me that it might be a Vulpes script used for their own purposes, with other Investors ?
Whilst I could be wrong, I think it IS genuine. GLA
Not a hope in hell that that is a genuine post, unfortunately.
Indeed miavoce. Further digging and googling brings up this older post from the 'other side' -
21/8/2019
15:54gooosed: Berm - yes, sorry didn't explain very well. Diggle's man in Sweden, Prof. Peter James (PhD BioChem Oxford & Prof. of BioChem & Proteomics @ Lunde University in Sweden) saw enough to have Diggle stump up £4m. While the rest of the Bio/Pharma world pass Scancell by (seems to include BioNTech now too) - pure speculation on my part but perhaps there are links/connections via Karolinska Institutet.
No link so I am suspicious.
However I will say that Professor Peter James was the guy Vulpes employed to do the due diligence on Scancell
https://www.lunduniversity.lu.se/lucat/user/4dde86d414203e07ca0546eb3d2b10ba
Rats - Peter James was I believe the name of the professor who did the due diligence for Vulpes in 2019 and commented so favourably on Scancell.
Hi WTP - yes would be good to know the source - I also tried googling text and came up blank. I can only think that it was maybe in an e-mail to Vulpes clients as there is nothing on their website.
And if you Google 'professor peter james vulpes Scancell' you get........in the words of Paul Daniels.....Not a lot.
Thanks chillpill and miavoce. Awesome news. Particularly “Human trials are due to start in the coming weeks and we should have early results by the beginning of the Summer”.
Quicker than even many bulls were thinking possible - and a great way to set up the weekend. I remain of the view that a COVID deal in the coming weeks is likely.
Not criticising miavoce here, i can see chillpill on A D V F N posted it, question is, where did he get it from?
Hopefully it is genuine, but...even as fully paid up member of team ramp, blatant and possibly false ramping needs to be avoided as much as de-ramping/making stuff up to talk a share down. They are as bad as each other IMO.
P.s. Nothing seems to come back if you google the first line "There has been significant excitement in both the media and the scientific community over the new approach from Scancell on targeting the Covid virus"
No link because it’s written by amateur Ramper ....or a journalist but not by a professor or Vulpes..
Sleep well guys...
Please find the link to help me change my mind...asap!
The contents ok and known to us though...but
GN
Back to 28p Monday then. ATB