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No point conversing with someone with such an high opinion of themselves. I know won't make a difference to your mind because you are one of those insufferable people but you don't bring anywhere near the knowledge that you think you do. The fact you think you are equal to 30 poster says it all. You're just a person in a bear market saying it will go down. That doesn't require any insight or skill. But I will leave you alone in your fantasy. It must feel so great to see yoursef as this brilliant financially astute wise. I honestly and truly wish I had the same delusions.
Game
“Toff -Just to liven things up do u want to place a wager. If it's a blue day
tomorrow then you agree not to post on this board for a month and if it's red then the same applies to me“
This silly offer highlights just how infantile this board is. That kind of mindset is on par with 6-7 year olds.
And it’s not a fair bet - maybe if you offered me thirty posters I’d accept because that would even things up a bit.
Because what I bring to the board is equivalent to at least 30 others on here.
Rolls will fall tomorrow. It may even test 150
Prediction @toff
@ Toff -Just to liven things up do u want to place a wager. If it's a blue day
tomorrow then you agree not to post on this board for a month and if it's red then the same applies to me. Also to keep it civil there is to be no gloating/taunting/insults or anything personal against the losing person at the end. We've both made our points on this board and it's there in the chat history for all to read so there is nothing to lose for both of us apart from our need to constantly give our views wherever it's negative or positive.
For that matter any negative poster who wants to take up this wager please let it be known. EIther tomorrow it will go down and I'll switch off for a month or there will be one less negative person on this forum. If you are certain that you are never wrong as you have said in a previous post the you will have no problem accepting this.
Toff
As I'm not talking to investors or shareholders of Bradford & Bingley Northern Rock HMV Woolworths Debenhams and hundreds of other companies that have bit the dust.....
I fail to see what I'm saying is nonsense.
Our views clearly differ and I have no problem with healthy debate or indeed being wrong.
I have been now and again, I do not purport to be a sage of all investments, I've been honest about where I'm invested and the worries I have.
I'm not painting an alternative reality to anyone, only mine which is rather than sell my paper loss, I'll keep it real and hang on to my current holding.
Selling massively at a loss, only to buy again in the same stock, to me, seems odd.
But - your words 'those buying in now can buy 2-3-4-5 times more shares for the same money as others who bought in over the past 12 months. And those buying in next month could get double what they’d get today for the same money.'
Show that you still see Rolls as a buy stock.
Maybe we are not so different, I'll hold, you go ahead and buy.
GLA
Trading
“Remember, no matter how underwater, you only drown if you sell your paper loss. I'll keep treading water.......”
Try telling that nonsense to shareholders of Bradford & Bingley Northern Rock HMV Woolworths Debenhams and hundreds of other companies that have bit the dust.
Sometimes paper losses are permanent. And the longer you hold the more losses increase. And sometimes paper losses amount to real losses of 100 percent of your investment. Paper losses can last a lifetime.
And those buying in now can buy 2-3-4-5 times more shares for the same money as others who bought in over the past 12 months. And those buying in next month could get double what they’d get today for the same money. Or better still, not buy in at all and avoid the grief and sleepless nights.
I know Rolls has broken a lot of hearts but painting an alternate reality won’t change Nothing.
Keep it real
Toff
As my investment seems to head south for the winter and as I read post after post about positions held, predictions, averaging down, dumb luck, cannon fodder and moron loyal employees, here's my pennys worth.
First rule of Rolls club.....
Your loss is ONLY a paper loss, unless you sell.
Do you actually NEED the hard earned cash you invested here? As in right now?
Company fundamentals change daily in this Covid madness. Just look over at IAG (where I'm also invested) or BARC (where I'm not) or to be frank, almost all FTSE companies today.
I love the way that some deramping PIs seem to think they could run the company better, if so, get invested, go to the AGM and vote off the board and then your great ideas I'm sure would get traction. I mean, why just keep your ideas here on a BB when you can always read the market?
Personally, I always think it's a great sign of staff loyalty and belief if they invest in the company they work for. Employee share save initiatives should not be derided, in the good times the guys and girls at the coal face get the rewards.
If your an ex employee and don't like the company, could see where other savings could me made, fair enough, I've left a few companies in my time, but I didn't then go onto share holders bbs and mock those that stayed. Or their belief in the company they worked for, often for a lifetime.
To be completely transparent, I am invested in Rolls. I'm not a current or past employee. My sp av is 219.
Do I believe in Rolls? Yes.
Do I believe it's diversified to still gain multiple revenue streams? Yes.
Do I believe it could fail? Any company can fail.
Do I wish I sold at a profit? Yes.
Will I hold my stock? Definitely yes.
You make your choices and investments, sometimes you can win, other times not.
I am in no way suggesting people buy into Rolls now, I won't be even at what appears staggeringly low prices.....
Remember, no matter how underwater, you only drown if you sell your paper loss. I'll keep treading water.......
GLA