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Funny you clown
You sold out on the 1st April
So why you still here ?
Wtf are you on about pal . I don’t troll I’m I’ve invested and I work at rolls Royce .
Honestly ignore red_inky he loves trolling with his brother valueinvestor. people who been looking at this chat for a while know what rubbish red_inky predictions mean
Sorry missed that mate , we have a little place in Torrevieja but now I have 2 grandchildren it’s slightly changed things. We are looking to downsize and keep a place around Derbyshire , a possible old barn conversion on a friends farm.
Red did you not see my question earlier where abouts in Spain you going
Expect a small rise in the morning then down to £1.04 tomorrow , next week or following some good news will come and I believe June - July / aug / sept etc planes will be full but this will not be enough to take this over 1.25 at best as travel will be very limited for the next 6-12 months .
The virus is out of control in large parts of the world..
Very true but break this down.. Japan are on the 4th wave..
They only just started vaccinating.. only done 10% of pop..
Look at other countries that the virus is out of control.. when we had vaccinated 2 million people was the virus out of control and we were doing really bad... no we were getting hold of it .. was Israel ever in a bad place????
I think it’s when you want to look and where they are in timescale kando... but don’t twist it all to sound so bad.
No kando you twist things to much.. Brazil and South Africa have got it wrong ... Brazil started out with no lockdowns.. how can you say it’s anything to do with the Oxford. You make it sound as they were on the way to doom if they didn’t ditch the Oxford.. don’t twist things so much.. bottom line the more people vaccinated the less variants are going to impact the nhs... as also we are not stupid enough that if cases start rising as the Oxford is only 10% we will tweak it or use another...
Glaxo- GSK will come to the rescue...
Glaxo RNS 11th March 2021
Vir Biotechnology and GSK announce VIR-7831 reduces hospitalisation and risk of death in early treatment of adults with COVID-19
· Independent Data Monitoring Committee recommends stopping Phase 3 COMET-ICE trial early given an 85% reduction in hospitalisation or death.
· Vir and GSK plan to immediately seek Emergency Use Authorization in the US and authorisations in other countries.
· Additional new in vitro studies indicate VIR-7831 maintains activity against major circulating COVID-19 variants.
The AstraZeneca jab offers as low as 10% protection against the South Africa variant. How do square that with what you've just said.
Moreover, vaccines tend to apply evolutionary pressure on a virus to mutate. At the moment we have a virus that is out of control in large parts of the world, and we're similarly applying an evolutionary pressure on it to mutate away from the function of vaccines.
There's no room for vaccine complacency here, variants can have a massive impact, hence why brazil and south africa ditched the astrazeneca vaccine early on (pre-dating the safety concerns).
Don’t agree on that kando.. the more we vaccinate the less severe variants will be..lockdowns will be all about the strain on the nhs... and even different variants won’t have the massive impact on the uk when more vaccinated
" how long do you want govts to close the borders and lockdown people? "
very fair question Smalltrader
Places like Spain are desperate to get tourism moving again....I am in Spain right now and near me there are 4 and 5 star hotels completely boarded in. Two new hotels completed last year near me have never opened yet. Many are not paying the usual taxes that would go to the Council etc....Bars and restaurants are opening but there are too many of them to just cater for locals and without pop concerts, trade fairs and all the other normal stuff that brings people ..it is hard going ...
On the beach in the summer you will have to wear a mask....and be distanced... capacity limited at busier times...
Museums have online bookings only and limited numbers ...but...open
At the moment you cannot go over the region border unless working or have a legit reason
Target is to get 60% of population vaccinated by end of August
A trial to bring cruise passengers start at the end of June...supervised initially with medical staff on-hand
Many summer concerts/festivals are not yet confirmed because it takes so much planning ahead and forward investment that they haven't committed themselves to yet
It might well be a goodish July and August and September period ....summer holidays for families etc but that isn't going to be enough to see tourism business through the winter ..June all the students are doing exams
They need tourism going NOW !!
Moreover... letting variants in WILL necessitate further lockdowns. So you can't have both this year. You can't expect the virus to remain under control at home, while jetting off to pick up variants from abroad. So if you want easing at home, the sacrifice is foreign travel.
If you want foreign travel, you'll have protracted and repeated lockdowns at home. That's the choice governments are having to make here.
It's not about what I want the governments to do. I, like everyone here, want the pandemic to be over. That's not got any bearing, nor really should it, on what governments will do. They have to act in their country's best interests, and presently that unfortunately means long haul travel is a huge irreconcilable risk, that would leave them very exposed to being labelled irresponsible.
Most people questioned why we kept the UK's borders open and accepted passengers from flights from Wuhan and Italy, sans testing, early on in the pandemic. The same will be true when there's variants like the seemingly formidable new Indian variant, in addition to the Brazilian and South African, floating about.
It's not as simple as merely wanting air travel back. It's going to require some time, that's all. Investors here need to appreciate that and stop expecting £1.30 end of april, £1.50 by july, £2 by whatever date, because realistically it's got further to fall than rise in the short term.
Kando, how long do you want govts to close the borders and lockdown people? We are now almost half through into 2nd year.
We have to learn to live with covid and open up economy. At the same time, vaccines can help reduce the infections. Number of positive cases down by 34% since last week or so.
Those countries with high infections will be put into red list and let the western countries open up once vaccinated.
You will see that EU will open up for tourism this summer and to do that they will ramp up vaccination despite J&J setback. Infact, Poland today administered J&J vaccine and there was no resistance from their people although it is still early days but you can see that EU countries are ramping up vaccination.
There will be lot of countries in green list. We just need the announcement as early as possible. UK is waiting to see the progress in EU so they want to make travel announcement early May. Until the announcement, I do not see why travel stocks will go down.
I feel the announcement in May will be welcomed by the market even if there are few countries listed in green zone. Market will be forward looking in anticipation of more will get added later.
Govt is also sorting out covid tests to enable travel for non vaccinated travelers.
I see glass half full...
amen to that.
Mr Levy .. you forgot, the spring is here, sun is shining and the birds are singing, and we all have a lot to be thankful for.. including Holiday homes in Spain ( for some ) :))
lots to be happy about - 55% of people in the UK with antibodies, all eyes on us given the success of our roll out. Aviation fuel sales starting to have a having a noticeable impact on oil price apparently ... will dig up link. Fleetwood Mac are still touring and the pubs are open. Its almost the weekend and RR hasn't dived. RR is one of my 4 50% up in the tax year bets - won't happen overnight slowly slowly catchy monkey.
Just a couple of corrections.
In the UK 32.3m have received a vaccination, with 8m of those receiving both. 40m doses have been administered, not to 40m people. This equates to 47.6% of the vaccination having had 1 dose, and 12% having had 2.
"Actually one negative news today was about spike in infections in India, Germany and Brazil." I've been posting this for 2 weeks, it's not news today.
And no, covid isn't very "mild" and the deaths are not "low".
578,000 have died in America alone, when only ~20% of the population had evidence of having been infected, which is more than America lost in all the wars it was involved in throughout the entire 20th century combined.
That's before you factor in the cost of long covid affecting another few % of the population.
It's curious how easily and readily you all seem to downplay and disavow reality, just to cheerlead a share price. What's worse is that you all seem genuinely confused as to why the world has shut down, like it's some kind of media conspiracy, and not a genuine attempt by governments to shield their health services from being overrun, as they are now in Brazil and India.
Red I know you mentioned that you are invested and you are frustrated looking at the share price. Everybody is frustrated and my last post was in frustration.
I'm trying to find some positives and I don't like how media covers the virus situation.
I still think May/June will look much better as EU ramps up vaccines and open up for travel.
Red Where about s are you going to in Spain we have an apartment there mate !
Red doesn't have anything to post other than just speculating the share price and "throwing" numbers in the air. How does that help anyone?
In just a matter of minutes today morning on the bell, SP moved from 107.74p to 109.45p. With so many shares in issue, still it rose by almost 2p in a matter of 3 minutes.
Now imagine what a bit of positive news will have an impact on RR SP?
Today, there was no news at all. All bad news has been priced in. We had J&J saga on Tuesday, we know about SA variant in London areas and RR price held up nicely. Actually one negative news today was about spike in infections in India, Germany and Brazil. But bloody media only talk about number of cases and not the deaths.
Chris Whitty said covids deaths will be treated like flu deaths as number is comparable or even lower than flu deaths although now we can't distinguish flu and covid deaths.
Now positive news that Media doesn't want to show on the front page is that 40M population got vaccinated in UK and over 40's are getting invited for jab in Ireland and 45+ in elsewhere in UK.
If they can just post the positive news on the front page, it makes so much difference to everyone's lives.
Kando knows, everyone knows that covid is actually mild and deaths are low too but these people want to spread fear.
Red, as you can see above, I did not write anything about the share price so try if you can post something that is not just numbers.
If this is only 135 by June 2022, I'm going to cry..... a lot.
Won’t be selling just frustrated . 4 weeks
We will be deeper I’m sure , looking at 1.35 June 2022 , I retire in April and move to Spain , hopefully with some spending money