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I was trying to read on the topic. My first thoughts on P2F manufacturing masks, was that it felt gimmicky, trying to ride COVID. However I do think mask “engineering” is taking off and the design will eventually be more scientific. I found a bit of material on this, and some bits are my own thoughts. I m not a scientist nor do I have any specialist knowledge in this area, hence any corrections welcome.
Masks in the health care setting are primarily to protect the wearer from outside infection. The valve on an N95 respirator mask is unidirectional in its filtration property. It filters air only INWARDS. When breathing out, it merely opens. So if the wearer of a mask has asymptomatic COVID, he/she is breathing out air without filtering viral particles.
Reusable vs disposable
Melt Blown vs Nano mask (MB vs NM)
Characteristics of a good mask:
1. Some proven efficacy as barrier against viruses+bacteria ie filtration
2. Qualities not compromised by moisture (water vapour/saliva) or washing
3. Washable to allow reuse
4. Comfortable to use ref breathability (very important for any setting where people wear masks for entire shifts): note CO2/thermal comfort better in NM vs MB
Advantages of an Electrospun Nano mask (NM) over Melt Blown (MB) masks:
1. Better breathing comfort than MB masks: The NF filter has finer structure than MB, uniform morphology, and uniform pore diameter which allows the water vapor laden air to be passed through the filter more efficiently, with less resistance. (My guess is that more air tends to flow from gaps around the mask if the material is resistant to flow, of course “fit” is a big issue)
2. Dries faster after washing
3. More consistently effective as bacterial/viral filter than MB (filtration efficiency based on particle size vs pore size, rather than static charge) (50-100nm pore size, air particle size is 4nm, viral particle size 80-160nm, latter bigger when incorporated within saliva)
4. Nano particles (Ag/TiO2/Zn/Cu?) within the mask material, do demonstrate anti viral property: this could be key to destroying virus transmission in BOTH directions from wearer to outside environment and outside to wearer (masks can become virus collectors when worn for long periods in health care setting; humid air from breathing reduces filtration; creates the conditions needed for penetration of the virus/bacterium into the mask)
All in all, there is a huge market for a “proper” mask which has all or most of above qualities and if these have been demonstrated scientifically. IMHO only. Please do your own reading. Good luck all
@Torreaguas One key thing I took from the RNS was where it said:
"Conventional surgical type masks typically comprise of three layers, with the inner layer acting as a physical barrier to viruses and bacteria. However, they are only recommended for up to two hours of continual use as this layer can become moist and fail, thereby allowing the virus to penetrate though."
So basically the existing disposable masks need to be chucked after 2 hours of use. If we get 4 hours (or more) out of ours then I guess the price should be more comparable with 2 existing masks(or more) than 1?
It’s all down to price. If these are going to be disposable ones and come in reasonable then at 5m per month there can supply the whole nhs and all care homes very quickly.
The inferior ones will be obsolete if they can get another plant and ramp up to 10m as they will get these into the high street, boots etc etc
If the tests show that these masks are better than the existing alternative then is it ethically acceptable for places with lots of vulnerable people to continue using the worse ones?
When I walk into a shop, sports event, cinema, would i want to wear a mask that is just a statement but actually does nothing or one that kills Covid 19 and any other virus before it gets through the mask and into my system?
Bristol has become the first university to force students to wear face masks and visors during all face-to-face classes.
Students at the Russell Group institution will be given a mask and visor when they arrive on campus and will be told they need to wear them to all classes and seminars that are taught in-person.
A spokesman for Bristol University said that a visor “should be considered as important as bringing your phone or laptop onto campus”.
If a student does not have a visor when they arrive at a class or seminar, they will be refused entry “in order to maintain a Covid-safe teaching space”.
Hierarchy of COVID-19 solutions??
2. Certified anti-viral face masks
3. Certified face masks
Pharm2Farm is developing a certified anti-viral face mask and will commission an industrial scale production line. #endcovideverywhere
That just gets better Hedgehog100.
Glad I'm in this one early. Just waiting for the fireworks now :)
That lower estimate of £2.5M. facemasks profit per month equates to £30M. profit p.a.
Not including potential worldwide licensing.
And masks will be just one of Pharm2Farm's products.
And PharmtoFarm is just one of RMS's three subsidiaries, along with GyroMetric and Cloudveil.
be good if RMS can get some national transport provider to use our masks like on the Tube
There is another company with a similar product
This is very interesting as ONE mask costs £29.90!
Now try and imaging our figures on 5m masks per month.
Not yet the best. Gl all
A simple question.
If this mask proves to do what the company says it does, that would have to mean that once production is fully up and running, the UK won't be the only customer countries knocking on the door.
All of course depends as ever on that big word 'if'.
Looks like solid buying today - I looked a couple of days ago and didn't buy, hoping for a dip.
I've bought now as it looks like dips might not come along before the next leg up.
Have you only just noticed that RMS is no longer a drone company, and hasn't been for a while.
The only AERO days are long gone.
How is it desperation to get rid of poor businesses and acquire much better ones?
It's just good business sense.
And the benchmarks for MMA trades have been going up all morning, the latest highest is at .54 and it keeps going up, looks like Monday may be launch day... Nice.
So far from the original mission? Must be getting desperate
Sounds good! So lets get this straight; on that lower estimate of 50p profit bulk to the NHS for 5m masks per month this would generate £2.5m profit per month on a share that currently has an MCAP of about 3m! No wonder so many buying in today!
don't forget those trial results also, citrus greening disease from China has caused billions of $ of damage across the USA to Orange crops. See Pharm2farm website for more details. Pharm2Farm are trialing their proprietary nano-technology with citrus farms in both the UK and USA in an effort to hold this citrus greening epidemic. Preliminary studies have shown that zinc can kill off the Candidatus Liberibacter asiaticus bacteria associated with citrus greening, something unachievable with current commercial bactericides. Pharm2Farm’s technology enables the zinc to be applied as drench or folia spray to the plant, effectively and efficiently translocating the zinc to the site of infection. This new nSitu technology will sit alongside the Pharm2Farms growing toolbox of nano-agritech designed to support commercial farmers around the world.
The global production of citrus fruit is estimated to be over 1115.6 million tons per year, with the USA producing 8 million tons, at an estimated value of over $3.3 billion. However, these numbers have been in steady decline since 2011. Huanglongbing, commonly referred to as Citrus Greening, is one of the contributing factors to the demise in citrus production; devastating citrus crops around the world, with no known cure, once the trees. It not only affects tree health but also fruit development, ripening, quality of citrus fruits, and juice. To control the spread of this disease, farmers are forced into removing and incinerating the trees once infected.
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What would a face mask that kills all viruses sell for? I am trying to figure it out.
Selling in bulk to the NHS, care homes, private hospitals etc they should easily clear 50p per mask profit.
Selling to the public online would be a lot more. Masks sell online for £5+ and do nothing. Imagine a mask that can genuinely claim to kill the virus before it reaches you. It all a bit mad but 5m masks per month at £2 per mask average profit??
Personally I was always in for the Gyro play but P2F could turn out to be the dark horse here. Read up on P2F as they have multiple strings to their bow - masks could be huge but it’s not the only thing in the stable. Circa £2m paid for this company so it’s not gonna be for the previous lowly reported revenues - it’s due to what’s to come.....
Level 2 now 3v2, nice, only 2 left on .45p